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By Justin Quinn, About.com Guide to US Conservative Politics

Election Day and the Conservative Quagmire

Tuesday November 4, 2008
A mother and daughter vote at The Tatnall School November 4, 2008 in Greenville, Delaware. This years voter turn out is expected to be higher then normal due to the heated race between presidential candidates.

Just for fun last week, I decided to interview a conservative friend of mine to pick his brain and find out why he was voting for Republican nominee John McCain and his vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin.

Mike Verno is a boisterous fellow, full of conviction and a penetrating intelligence that is apparent five minutes after meeting him. If anyone could make the case for the McCain/Palin ticket, it was this guy.

Or so I thought.

"I am planning to vote for Barack Obama," Verno said with deadpan delivery. "I will vote for Obama, actually. This country needs a radical shift. We need something more radical to bring the war effort to an end. I'd like to see our international prestige go up, and I don't think John McCain can do that."

The mood had changed considerably. Suddenly, neither of us was laughing.

Collecting my jaw from the floor, I asked him to repeat what he said, because I didn't quite catch the last part of his comments. My brain had temporarily seized up after the word "actually."

"I don't feel good about it," Verno said, "and I only want him in there for four years. I just hope he'll be in there long enough to bring a radical change to the country that will jump start the economy and improve our international standing."

Although he may not sound like it, Verno is a Republican, hands down, but he votes his conscience, not the party line. He grudgingly voted for George W. Bush in 2000 (it was more of a vote against Al Gore, he said), but favored McCain in the primary. Things have changed dramatically in eight years, though. McCain has changed, he said.

In 2004, fed up with Bush and the dramatic shift in his political ideology, Verno said he voted for Democrat John Kerry (it was more of a vote against Bush), even though he disliked both candidates.

"I'm a Ron Paul guy," Verno said. "But he's not an option." Verno said he doesn't believe the conservative movement has been totally destroyed, but he does believe it's on life support. And John McCain isn't the candidate to bring it back -- not after the campaign he has run. "I feel he has undermined its potential to succeed," Verno said. "He's run a terrible campaign and his selection of Sarah Palin was a shallow political move."

I can only hope that Verno is a blip on the radar, and that most conservatives will turn out the vote for McCain and Palin. But Verno's disillusionment with the Republican Party -- and McCain in particular -- makes me nervous, especially considering how much respect I have for him.

Verno is clearly a paleoconservative and believes that the conservative movement has been taken over by the neocons and social cons. Verno says he agrees with many of the fundamental beliefs of both those "brands" of conservatism, but thinks the movement should return to its small government, fiscal conservative roots -- the kind of conservatism introduced by Barry Goldwater.

My conversation with Mike was strangely reminiscent of my conversation with Dr. Paul Gottfried, the man widely credited with defining "paleoconservatism." As a paleocon, Gottfried told me he, too, was planning to vote for Obama. He said he believed that the Democrat would put the country into such a financial crisis that in four years, the nation would drift back to the right and elect a true conservative.

Again, Gottfried is a man I respect and admire, and again, his reasoning gives me pause. Verno insists that his reasons for voting Democratic in 2008 is in no way subversive. He genuinely believes Obama is the better candidate this year, and the only one who can return respectability to the Oval Office.

Of course, I disagree with both positions. I believe McCain the president would be the McCain of old. I will agree that he's a lousy campaigner. I think he won the debates, but not by much. Unfortunately, he needed a grand slam in each one, and he hit singles instead. I don't think, however, that the way a candidate campaigns reflects the way he'll govern as president.

If that were the case, we would be reflecting on President George W. Bush as a man who was a steadfast "compassionate conservative," a man who reached across the aisle to shore up a divided Congress, and a man who dramatically reduced the size and scope of government. These are three of the many famous campaign promises Bush has broken since taking up residency in the Oval Office.

Barack Obama is the unknown variable. An untested neophyte to US government. A man who has been in federal government just three years, two of which he has spent campaigning for president of the United States. While I respect my conservative friends' points of view, I cannot accept them.

Photo © William Thomas Cain/Getty Images

Comments

November 4, 2008 at 5:54 pm
(1) Aaron Walker says:

Your article points out the fatal dichotomy which has been facing the Republican Party since it began its love affair with John McCain. I am fairly young, but old enough to remember the “John McCain of old”, having been raised in Arizona as a youth. I also am old enough to remember the Keating Five and I can in no way, shape, or form support a McCain presidency. Quite frankly, he should have been run out of the Senate 20 years ago.

I too, am a “Ron Paul guy”. But more than that, I fall into that Paleoconservative category and believe we, as a party and a nation, drifted far, far away from what the Framers intended. I trace my roots back to Thomas Jefferson… if that’s even possible.

The Republican Party made this proverbial bed and they are now very much going to have to sleep in it. Obama will run away with the election today (not because of actual votes, of course, but because this was written into a script some time ago) and we will see no more than four years from him. A democratically controlled government has never once proven well for the nation as a whole and we will prove that once again between 2008 and 2012.

Personally, I wrote in Ron Paul in a state where his write in vote will not be counted. Why? To make a true statement of dissent and to evoke the ultimate “un-democratic” action on the part of my state… and that is, for them to effectively throw my ballot in the trash. My voice will not be heard, is what my state would like us to believe, but on the contrary, my vote will scream louder than any cast for either Barack or John.

I can see many Paleoconservatives casting a vote for Barack simply to show the Republican Party that they will not stand for the neo-conservative garbage they have been shoving down our throats for the past 20 years. A vote FOR Barack is a vote AGAINST neo-conservatism. The hope is, that we will hold up a truer conservative in 2012 to take back the White House and possibly even a few Senate and Congressional seats because of the anticipated political and economic turmoil I foresee coming to pass.

Say goodbye to the Republican Party as we know it. It is either going to be completely and officially bought out by the Democratic hostile takeover, or it will be resurrected in a more conservative form in a few years.

November 4, 2008 at 11:42 pm
(2) Joe Reich says:

All over the blogosphere Conservatives talk about Republicans losing Congress as if the relevant Republicans were were the Congressmen. Governing by corrupt big government principles is fun and profitable for any member of Congress that practices it whether the legislator is Democratic or Republican. The temptation is huge and has to be confronted daily.

People forget what a comfortable club the U.S. Senate is. Has anyone considered the huge pressure on any Senator from a small population state such as Alaska or Delaware to give into corruption? In fact where the rubber meets the road Wyoming has the exact same legislative power as New York. Forget the House. The Senate is a gatekeeper for every single appropriation. So after 911 when Congress appropriated a huge sum for air port security, New York received less that $2.50 per flight customer. Wyoming received over $16.00 per passenger. Fair? No. Its inherently corrupt from day one.

Can anyone run for Senate in Wyoming and win without working the usual corrupt angles for Wyoming citizens? And we haven’t even started discussing earmarks and easy access to out of country bank accounts. How that works to totally corrupt the individuals in Congress is another interesting story.

To have Conservative control in Congress would require far more Conservative Citizen monitoring and action than I can imagine. But I know that Conservatism would have to come from the Citizens. It is virtually impossible to elect a Conservative and have any confidence that the “Conservative” will be recognizable as such two years later.
The pressures and temptations are simply too great.

There is almost zero precedent for Conservative Citizens throwing out one of their own in a primary for reasons of ideology. So based on what we know the pendulum will probably swing towards conservatism some day; but any victories we have can not be sustained.

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