Specter Awakens a Sleeping Tiger -- and Her Name is Katy Abram
Update No. 3 (Aug. 13, 3:47 p.m.):The fury of the Left is in full-force now, attacking Katy Abram with a shocking indecency.
This morning, she spoke with Glenn Beck and described the vicious attacks, breaking down in tears more than once as she did (you can hear a portion of the show here. Beck said he understood her feelings, that he has a security detail following him for similar reasons.
The people perpetrating this harassment can't even be called "liberal." I know many liberals, and can say with absolute certainty that most of them are good people. I consider more than a few of them my friends. But what these people are doing, whoever -- whatever -- they are, is downright vile. They're calling her on her cell phone and accusing her of being a racist, as if that has anything to do with opposing health care. They're sending her hate e-mails. These scurrilous cowards are even calling her father at his office and harrassing him there.
Simply read the comments at the bottom of this thread to get a feel for the kind of the vitriol being leveled at this stay-at-home mom from a small town in Pennsylvania -- a woman who simply spoke up against what she saw as an oppressive government proposal and asked her Senator to do something about it.
I spoke with Katy just a little while ago. She's doing surprisingly well considering all the cheap shots she's taken. She said she feels as though speaking out is what she is meant to do right now. She's not sure where her journey will lead, but she knows she cannot stop.
That got me thinking.
During one of his many civil rights marches, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. was hit with a brick and knocked down.
At that moment, it would have been easy for him to stay down. He could have called for help or been taken to the hospital. It would have been easy for him to pack it all in at that moment and call it quits.
But Dr. King knew he couldn't quit.
Dr. King got up, and Dr. King kept marching. Why? Because he knew he was marching for a cause greater than himself.
The left can knock Katy down all they want. They can criticize her and harass her and even call her names. But Katy is going to get right back up and keep going.
Update No. 2 (Aug. 12, 5:46 p.m.): Katy appeared on MSNBC's "Hardball with Chris Matthews" just a few minutes ago. Matthews must have been off, because Katy was interviewed by second-stringer Lawrence O'Donnell, who kept saying Social Security and Medicare were examples of "good socialism." As Katy would begin to answer his loaded questions, O'Donnell would interrupt her, then put words in her mouth. "So! You think these programs should be repealed, right?!" She'd say, "Well, I ..." and he'd say, "So you do!" What a ridiculous "interview." Katy did a great job, though, considering she was on a very hostile network.
I found O'Donnell disingenuous and patronizing. He thanked her for being there, acknowledged she doesn't speak publicly for a living, then grilled her with oxymoronic questions that had nothing to do with health care. He also tried to elicit highly personal information from her from her, including her family's income. I would have given anything to hear Katy ask him what he makes every year.
But, then, Katy's too classy for that.
Finally, for all his pretentious "knowledge" (he knew that Social Security was adopted from a German model, for example), O'Donnell swore up and down that Obama had never advocated for a single-payer health care system. Oh, really?
Here's the evidence, Larry.
Update No. 1 (Aug. 11, 11:34 p.m.) Katy appeared on FOX News' "Hannity" tonight as the headline story. She was, as she has always been, wonderfully articulate and passionate. It was a great interview. If you haven't seen it, I suggest you take a look.
Original Post: Before today, the last time I talked to Katy Weber was 19 years ago.
She sat behind me in chemistry class. She was a junior and I was a senior and we both attended Hempfield High School.
Then, today, as I was working on a piece about immigration reform, I looked up ... and saw her again. At first I thought I was imagining things. Perhaps I'd had too much rum on Monday night. After all, I told myself, "It's been 19 years. No way that was Katy."
But the image wouldn't go away. There she was, right in front of me -- on CNN no less, confronting Pennsylvania Sen. Arlen Specter at a town hall meeting in Lebanon, Pa.
Don’t get me wrong, I’ve talked to Katy via Facebook, the way people do nowadays. She “friended” me or I “friended” her, I don’t know which. We were both delighted to learn that despite the different roads we’ve traveled in life, we both came around to conservatism as a personal political philosophy. She would occasionally comment about something I wrote. I would occasionally comment about one of her family pictures.
But, until this morning, I had no reason to actually speak to her, voice-to-voice, about something as substantive as health care reform.
Nor was I alone. After her confrontation with Specter, everybody wanted to talk to Katy. CNN, The Washington Post, CBS, FOX New and every person or three-letter TV station she has known since the eighth grade, as well as many people -- and other TV stations -- she didn’t know.
Katy’s popularity came about because she had the courage to tell Specter this:
"I am a Republican," Katy said. "But first and foremost I am a conservative. I don't think this is just about health care. It's not about TARP. It's not about left and right. This is about the systematic dismantling of this country. I'm only 35, I've never been interested in politics. You have awakened the sleeping giant. We are tired of this. This is why everybody in this room is so ticked off."
Her words have reinvigorated conservatives across the country and she has virtually single-handedly renewed a grass-roots movement that President Obama and Congressional Democrats were trying to dismiss as “manufactured dissent.”
Well, if there were any doubt in my mind before this morning, it is gone now. I know Katy. There’s no way in HELL she was being paid to speak her mind. Katie and I were friends. Good friends. Such good friends, in fact, that when I asked her for an interview all these years later, she happily obliged. I spoke to her as she was headed to Philadelphia, where she'll speak via video feed to FOX News’ “Hannity” tonight and to CNN’s “American Morning” and FOX News’ “FOX & Friends” in the morning. For the record, they're staying with friends in the Philadelphia area -- liberal friends.
"I have lots of friends, and we have sat and talked about all this B.S.," she said. "We've talked and complained, but we've never done anything about it.
Until recently, Katy hasn’t been that involved in politics. In April, she attended her first ever political event – a tea party in Harrisburg. Since then, she’s spent a lot of time researching government and getting up to speed on important issues like Obama’s health care legislation. She has read the bill, and for the past two days she's become informed. She's come to the same conclusions I have.
"The stuff that's in there, Justin, it is crazy," she said. "When they're talking about EFT fund transfers and them being able to get into our accounts, that sounds like something from another world. That doesn't sound like something that should be happening in our country."
So, when she had the chance to ask Sen. Arlen Specter a question, she didn’t want to miss it.
"I was delighted that I had the opportunity to speak my mind," she told me. "We got there at quarter of seven. We were among the first handful of people [to arrive].”
Katy said she was worried at first.
“I didn't know if they were going to bus in [members of the Service Employees International Union],” she said, referring to recent incidents in which union thugs had attacked opponents of the health care bill. “I didn't know what was going to happen. At some of these town hall meetings, I've heard about them busing in people and bringing them in through the back door."
As she was standing in line, she noticed a group of women who were demonstrating in favor the bill. She approached the nearest one.
“I asked her, 'Why are you for this health care bill?'” Katy said. “And she told me, 'I work for the Philadelphia unemployment office. There are people there that can't afford health care insurance.'"
As Katy looked at the other women, they were all wearing the same outfits.
"Did they bus these people in?" she remembered thinking. "I'm concerned that we paid for them to come here today."
She raises a valid question. After all ... it's a Tuesday – a work day. The only reason Katy and her husband could attend was because they were on vacation celebrating their 10th wedding anniversary.
“I went in with a list of 10 questions and I didn't use any of them,” she said. “When I sat there as Arlen was doing his little spiel, I changed my question four times.”
Just before her turn (she was questioner No. 7 of 30), there was a confrontation between Specter and a constituent, which drew the attention of the armed guards in attendance as well as a throng of media (in most YouTube clips, Katy can be seen behind this fray, holding her own camera up to capture the scene).
"I had already been anxious," she said. "I had been thinking about this since we got the invitation ... a couple of weeks ago. So, after things got heated in there, then it was my turn. I was obviously a little bit ramped up. At that point, I just went with whatever my heart told me to say."
The rest is YouTube history.
What is barely audible, however, is what Katy said after Specter took the microphone back.
"I said to him, 'George Washington is rolling over in his grave right now,'" she said. "And he looked me dead in the eye, as if to say, 'I get it.' Whether or not that sinks in, I don't know. I know, after what I said, that he heard me. I know he heard me. I was pretty emotional about it, and I'm not an emotional person. I had tears in my eyes, and I know he saw that."
She still doesn't understand why so many members of the media are interested in talking to her. I tried to explain that she has articulated how conservatives genuinely feel about this legislation -- that she IS the sleeping giant. She still seems confused. Despite the attacks from the liberal media that have already begun, Katy continues to inspire people.
"Justin, all these media people just swarmed around me,” she said. “I was not expecting that at all," she said. "There were 30 people who asked questions [at the town hall]. Why am I the one people have been calling all day long?"
As she prepares to speak to the national media tonight and tomorrow, I asked her how she feels about being thrust into the national spotlight.
"I am so nervous, I want to vomit in my shoe,” she said. “I'm not a public speaker. I'm not an in-front-of-the camera type of person. I think that is why my head is just spinning today. I'm really having trouble wrapping my head around it.”
Katy Weber Abram is not a part of some vast right-wing conspiracy to give insurance companies the upper hand in the health care reform debate. She’s just an ordinary woman from an ordinary town in Central Pennsylvania, a woman who is concerned about the welfare of her family.
How do I know this?
Katy Weber Abram was my date for the senior prom.
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Katy “Sleeping Tiger” Abram said today at Arlen Specter’s town hall meeting on health care that she’d “never been interested in politics” until now.
Judging by the idiocy of her comments, it’s perfectly clear that she’d never before been interested in politics because it likely exceeded and escaped her intellectual capacity.
How is reforming the health care system going against the Constitution?
How is wanting to lower the costs of health care premiums transforming the United States into the Soviet Union?
How is wanting to enact a public option to compete with private insurance companies going against what the country’s “founding fathers” envisioned?
Bet Paper Tiger Katy has no answers to those questions. And the worst part of her sorry diatribe is that the other lemmings at the meeting stood and applauded her ignorance, such as the lunatic who asked Specter if he’d ever read the Qur’an and the other nut who warned Specter that God would one day judge him on how he might vote on health care legislation.
Katy the Paper Tiger has ZERO credibility — about the same as Joe the Plumber.
Katy,
My family is so proud of you for speaking up today. It takes guts and and deep roots to speak your mind in such a straight forward way. Thank you!
Katy Abram is a part of meetup.com. She follows Glenn Beck. So she is a part of that crazy “we gotta take the country back 9-12 movement” with Glenn Beck. Same old talking points, give me a break. They all look and sound alike. I’ll pray for you all. So you can put that “sleeping giant” back to sleep.
Way to go Katy!!! Say it loud, Say it PROUD! Thanks for not letting anyone silence you. You have SO many supporters out there that feel exactly the same way you do. Thanks for being our voice!
Good for you Katy. I only WISH we had MORE like you to stand up to the Socalist/Marxist direction this county is headed. People need to go to http://www.cpusa.org and pull up the article on the plans the communist/marxist have for the USA. They very plainly state their intention to destroy the capitalist system in the US and have the government in full control. Some people are just too DUMB to see it or else too uninformed. I hope everybody that see this will pull up that article and open their EYES and realize communist/socialist and Marxist are hard at work in this nation to destroy our Constitution.
Katy, I am so proud of you and wish more had your GUTS. We must stand up and fight the socialist/Marxist/communist takeover in the USA. I hope everybody that read this will go to http://www.cpusa.org and read their plans to destroy the capitalist system in the USA.
What did Katy mean? Her opinion had no specifics, nor any substance. She maybe Republican, being foremost “conservative” doesn’t mean much.
Rambling ranting about the Constitution, changing America back is time wasting.
Some of us have been awake politically a very long time. I’m only 42. She was asleep the past 8 years is unforgivable. Two wars, lies told to the UN, money laundering was going on in Congress. Wall Street meltdowns since 2000, investors losing life savings. She likely has less opinion about that than whatever “waking sleeping giant” means.
She talked to Specter simply because he’s a Democrat now and no longer Republican, that is her impulse. When there, she made no sense.
Thank Heaven for Katy Abram. I would not care if she had slapped Specter’s pompous face [was that his face]? First there was illegal alien amnesty; some 80% of us didn’t want it yet they tried to cram it down out throats, anyway, and that was under MY president. Now they have a whole menu which if passed will solidify the votes of the unproductive to Dimocrats forever. I’m from Appalachia and there are 10s of thousands of advanced welding, nursing, mechanic, and whatever other certificates sitting on the porch, trained under various government programs; and before you start, there are many more whites than blacks in that area. Some of those people are on the 3rd and 4th generation on the public dole, just as they are in the 9th Ward of New Orleans where I was stationed for over 3 years. The “Great Society” brought training, but none of the poverty whores EVER said, “We’ll offer the training, but there just might not be an entity that brings the job over to your house. You just might have to go where the job is.” Why do you think that is? It’s to capture the freeloader vote for the foreseeable future for the those who run for the poverty vote, mostly Dimocrats. So I don’t want the managers of the “Great Society,” “War on Drugs,” “War on Poverty,” Social Security, the education system, and all the other spiffy failed government programs running anything for me including my health care, killing my currency, taxing everything I consume through the global warming hoax, and the rest of it. I’m glad we’re waking up.
GOOD for you Katy: Keep up the good work
I just saw this wonderful young lady on Hannity. What a well spoken person with genuine concerns. She did a great job of representing millions of concerned Americans who feel exactly like her. Please pass on any and all support and gratitude your blog may receive on her behalf. By the way there is a wonderful group of like minded people who are members of I group I have recently joined called the 9.12 project. They could certainly use her help in articulating their cause. Thanks again for this report. Ed S
Where was Katy Weber, and all the other TeaBaggin’ Terrorists, when Bush and the Republicans were running our country into the deepest ditch in history, spending every dime of Social Security, doubling our National Debt, helping Wall Street rip off millions of Americans, and getting caught in all those lies about the war in Iraq, torturing people, and spying on normal Americans? And now she’s out spouting proven lies and thinks she’s a “sleeping giant”? She’s an ignorant tool of the health care CEO’s who are robbing America blind. Nothing more.
You go girl! thanks for speaking for me. You are a true patriot. I am a 45 yr old female 3 kids husband and with a full time job. I so appreciate the time that you took to speak for us. Great Job! Thanks again you are my hero………….Chris Orange Ca.
you go girl! thanks for speaking for me and you had the right amount of passion. This is our country and we will defend it. Thank you again for your time that you took to tell them how it is. You are my hero. Chris wife,mother, full time RN
Oh, goody, they woke another idiot child to replace Palin. ROFL
Such a dangerous woman this Katy is to bring out the liberal venom of rapine like David Letterman unleashes on Gov. Palin for just being an American lady who is secure in herself.
For those who are ignorant in not understanding when Katy Abram said, “CONSERVATIVE” she need not say anything more as that word is a volume in belief of America as that Shining City on a Hill.
What sport liberals have now in this Age of Obama where ripping apart an American woman who should be in chivalry protected, but is instead treated like beasts do in the 3rd world to all women enslaved there.
The Wall Street Journal stated today that Obama just has no comprehension of America in understanding who she is. People attacking Katy Abram are Obama’s parmours in not comprehending who she is in that most noble of calling in “just” being an American Citzen.
She deserves to be treated like the Lady she is and treating her otherwise reveals what 3rd world mentality is thriving in America that savages women.
May God bless and keep her in Jesus Name. Amen
God Bless you Katy!
And you liberal ignoramuses on here–you’ll get what youse desoive.
oh yeah.
Thank You Katy ! Great job and keep it up.
she was AMAZING and I felt inspired by her!
Katy, thanks so much for speaking up at the town meeting and expressing your concern for us and the country we all love so much. You have instantly become our universal voice and we champion your courage to stand up. Sadly, it may have come down on deaf ears with the Senator but do not give up. Be sure to tell everyone that they can still control who will represent them in Congress by changing them out at the polls.
Keep trying. Your voice has been heard nationwide.
Go Katy!!!!! I’m in Nevada with the same concerns, we’ve got to stand together and do what’s right for our future and that is to get our country back from the whacked out government. Our freedom is why we stay in the USA, not being held back by a bunch of people who go on dates and vacations funded by the taxes we all pay!
Katy,
I stand with you 100% in your concerns with the direction of this country!! The people who like this healthcare plan are: illegals, the unemployed, and people who haven’t worked to earn their own way. According to the Bill of Rights, we have the right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. We don’t have the right to healthcare. THE GOVERNMENT’S ROLE IS TO PROTECT OUR LIBERTIES AND RIGHTS!! The government needs to stay out of our choices, our lives, and our pursuits! I have never been without healthcare coverage because I have always had a JOB. If a person is not willing to work, then they should face the consequences! The government should spend less time on socialist programs and spend more time on expanding liberty, opening up trade, improving the playing field for businesses, and lessening restrictions on business so more people could find JOBS which would intern PROVIDE HEALTHCARE!
I think Katy is a genuinely concerned citizen, but what bothers me is all the misinformation that is being circulated by the insurance lobbyists and the right-wing media that is trickling down into talking points that ordinary citizens are using. Using electric fund transfer payments (EFT’s) from people’s accounts is exactly what insurance companies do when they accept automatic payments, so why would that be so weird if a government option plan did the same thing? There needs to be more education and a more cohesive plan, and that’s going to be tough to get past the distractions the right wing and big insurance are brainwashing people with.
I don’t understand why we should praise falsehood. I believe in democracy and letting everyone’s voice be heard, but there is nothing in the bill about letting the government access everyone’s bank account electronically, and there is nothing in the bill that remotely involves turning the US into a Soviet-style system. That’s not opinion, that’s just plain false.
I used to think I was conservative, but that was before the conservatives abandoned the truth and joined up with conspiracy theory types.
Way to go Katy!! It is this kind of sentiment that is going to get us where we finally need to go in this country: the final abolition of all socialist institutions. After we get rid of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, we have got to dismantle schools, police, fire departments, highways, and the postal service. Actually, we would need to get rid of the military, too, because that’s a socialist institution as well, and, of course, Veterans Affairs. There is no reason all of these can’t be fee-for-service institutions. I personally can’t think of anything more terrifying than the government making sure people had health care.
You haven’t even talked to Katy, you don’t know what she really believes or who she supports. She was your prom date? That’s how you judge her character? Really?
I shall keep listening to Glen Beck for the truth for he is a true prophet in these end times. Katy has delivered his message to the people.
We don’t need health care reform. Its perfect just the way it is. The insurance companies need to make a profit! That is the American way.
Katy Abram is about as educated as the average
American; not too well. Her comment that the
government never does anything right makes me
wonder & HOPE: She won’t be using the Public
Schools for HER children, no public library or
park district services either, she should not
drive on our highways or use our water, garbage,
etc.
More Americans need to get OUT of this country
once in a while and see what other countries
government services are – good AND bad.
Jane, I think it’s because she uses these services that she can see how poorly run they are. And just because things are bad in other countries, it doesn’t mean things can’t be better in our country.
Gretchen,
I know Katy a whole lot better than you do.
Tom,
Now, why in the world would you go spreading lies like this. I can only guess that you haven’t actually read the bill. I’ve read most of it (admittedly, I’m still reading it — it’s 1,100 pages long). Not very far into the bill, I found a section that outlines governmental powers, which included gaining real-time access to patient bank accounts for patients who participate in the public option. It’s THERE. It’s not make believe. I found it myself, I didn’t read it on any other web sites or blogs. That’s when I wrote about it.
Concerned Moderate,
I thought the same thing at first. Then it dawned on me. The difference between what insurance companies (and other automatic payees) do and what the government is planning to do with its public option is that the insurance companies must have the patient’s permission to make the payments. There is NO WORDING about authorizations or permissions from the patients before funds are transferred. We all know that if it is not explicitly stated in the legislation, unscrupulous folks will exploit the loopholes. The wording is done this way to ensure that payees get paid. In other words, if you’re one day late with your payment, the government will make the transfer for you.
This is another performance by an uneducated, bigmouth, rambling idiot. Nothing less than a lunatic attempt at 15 miinutes of fame.
I wasn’t going to approve this comment because at first I thought it added nothing to the discussion. Then I realized — it says more about the person making the statement than it does about the person he or she is attacking. Once again, the left doesn’t like the message, so it attacks the messenger.
The Preamble of our Constitution makes promotion of the General Welfare one of its primary purposes. That’s the basis of the Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid and unemployment compensation laws. The General Welfare is important enough that the Constitution mentions it a second time in the section on CONGRESS’S power to tax.
People uninsured and without access to health care are often hard to deliver health care to. If we don’t get them covered, it allows bioterrorism or just pandemics to be much more severe than if they are covered.
LEARN YOUR OWN CONSTITUTION!
Counselor,
Give me a break. According to About.com’s US Government Info Guide Robert Longley, “Everyone in the U.S. – including those illegally in the U.S. — is guaranteed access to basic health care. Under a 1968 federal law, all patients seeking care in hospital emergency rooms must be given a minimum level of treatment, regardless of their ability to pay or health insurance status.”
The fact is, Americans DO enjoy a basic level of health care in the US, and that basic level is a thousand times better than the basic level in other countries. This isn’t about promotion of the General Welfare. This is about nationalizing the General Welfare. There are more instances of conflict with the constitution with this bill than there are instances of harmony. You don’t honestly believe that bioterrorism and pandemics are just going to dissolve because Americans adopt ObamaCare, do you?
“The fact is, Americans DO enjoy a basic level of health care in the US, and that basic level is a thousand times better than the basic level in other countries.”
Or 37th in the world and 20th in infant mortality, depending on your calculations. Last year, we spent about $2.5T on health care, or about 1 dollar out of every 5 in Gross Domestic Product. Half of the bankruptcies in America and half of the home foreclosures were due to medical bills. A majority of bankruptcies and foreclosures happened to people who had insurance. We may all have access to health care, as you claim. We just can’t afford it.
Health care needs reform. However, I’m not seeing it in this bill. At best, this is a very weak start. Nothing about cost control.
I understand Katy’s point, however inarticulate. We are less free than we were 19 years ago, when you and Katy were in high school. Many of us don’t understand what is happening to this country. We understand the health care debate even less. Many do not care to understand. Inarticulate angst trumps logical discussion every time. For that reason, health care reform will die. Perhaps, as Charles Krauthammer has suggested, something will pass with that label but it will be little more than the status quo ante.
What did Katy say? And Katy who? Until now I still did not get it. The woman has no clue what she is talking about. She is no better than Sarah Palin. Brainless!
Griff? You are a typical, know-it-all, arrogant, liberal elitist. What is your problem? Why such anger at a perfect stranger? Katy is exactly the type of person you heralded for electing Obama. People who had never really been involved in politics but were “moved” to vote? How dare you look down your pointed little nose at her!! She is a hero. She is because she never cared much about the way government works….like many she went along day to day and didn’t pay too much attention….until it started to have a direct affect on her and her family. So back off, Griff! She voiced her opinion and rather than slandering her for it, you should be thankful we have the right to speak freely.
I think Katy should stick to cheerleading – she’s much better suited for that job. As to why being your prom date allows you to vouch for her as a person, I’m totally perplexed. She herself admitted on “Hannity” that she had once been a Democrat, voted for Clinton twice, was pro-choice; in other words, sensible. It’s a shame what time and a misguided husband can do to a woman.
And Justin, you need to spell check your stuff – you mis-spell Katy’s name in your article – for someone you claim to know well, not knowing how to spell her first name speaks volumes.
Hey Counselor,
If you read the constitution it does say: “provide for the common defense, promote the general welfare, and secure the blessings of liberty to ourselves and our posterity,”. I noticed you missed the CLEAR distinction when our forefathers placed the word “provide” with respect to “Common defense” and the word “promote” with respect to “general welfare”. When it comes to “the right to healthcare”, a constitutionally prudent person would claim that the founders believed that to “provide” for welfare would be to provide for more destitution and would NOT lead to “our collective prosperity”… Otherwise they would have placed the word “provide” in where, you are currently misled to believe, it already exists.
Katy went to a town hall meeting with a question. I can understand her worry. Then we decided to make her a celebrity. And when I say we I mean newspeople, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, you know the usuals. No one should be yelling at her for her comments, but no one should be applauding her for her comments either. She was just there with a question. America dedided to make her a rockstar. I watched her performance on CNN this morning and it left me wondering. Wondering if her “health care savings account” that her self employed husband and her used was for full blown health care or just for accidents? If they actually paid it to an insurance group or if the just saved in case they need money? If her children were covered by a state medical plan, like so many states are using now? If her children attended, or will be attending a public school? What kind of work does her husband do? Does he apply for grants for doing this work? How many people, if any, does her husband employ? Does he provide health care benefits for these people? If he doesn’t, does he give them an allowance so they can purchase their own? Do they pay into the Social Security System? Do they ever plan on retiring? If so, do they plan on using medicare/medicad?
During the election people turned mean and ugly. I do not mean to sound mean or ugly and if I do, I would like to say I am sorry in advance. But you can’t live in this country (or any other country) without the government. When our founding fathers wrote the constitution they couldn’t have mentioned health care because there wasn’t any to mention. Using that as a reason for the government to not adopt a health care bill is the same thought process as many Amish and Menonite communities use. I am not bashing them, but everyone who is commenting here is not part of these communities and has decided that progress should prevail.
Poor people deserve to have health care. Yes, you can go to the Emergency Room and get a minimum amount of care regardless of your ability to pay, but wouldn’t it be better to give someone antibotics for an upper respiratory infection instead of hospitilizing them for pneumonia. The people who do not have health care are not just the people who have decided to let the government take care of them, they are young, innocent children.
The laws of economics tell us that with more competition comes lower prices. With a government plan it will give big insurance companies competition, lower the prices for everyone, and give people who are not covered the ability to get coverage.
Katy, Your courage should be emulated by many. Thank you!
WOW. Those that are making PERSONAL attacks on this young lady are clearly immature. Comparing her to Palin, or Palin’s idiot son….truly classless. Regardless of your viewpoint – why personally attack her?? She gave her opinion and suddenly she is lacking education, being called an idiot, an ignorant tool. It’s called RESPECT. Have some respect, people. For or against her opinion, at least show some class like at least one “Concerned Moderate” did. Katy is a person – just like you and I…well, like most of you – the mature ones who respect one another and each others viewpoints!
Those of us who revere the Declaration of Independance and the Constitution, we are the sleeping tiger. Republican and Democrate politicians will continue to erode our freedoms until we finally say “enough is enough. We are mad as hell and we are not going to take it any more.”
In response to TOM ” there is nothing in the bill about letting the government access everyone’s bank account electronically ” Try reading the BILL.
Pg 59 HC Bill lines 21-24
enable electronic funds transfers, in order to allow automated reconciliation with the
related health care payment and remittance.
Wouldn’t that mean the government would have MY account information to access accounts?
I see the very first comment and how many after it were Obama-ites lining up to attack this woman for daring to speak her mind. It used to be the liberal creed that, “I may disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it.” You people aren’t liberals at all, or you’re debasing your own philosophy. You’re either being paid to do what you’re doing, or you’re people with your hand out to the government. And the Democrats and liberals don’t understand the anger that they’re stirring up in this country.
Griff, you are simply a mental midget. You are the same caliber of mental midget that is currently serving in our Congress. You ugly buffoon, if you cared to read or pay attention to her comments, you would have realized she said, “I don’t think this is just about health care. It’s not about TARP. It’s not about left and right. This is about the systematic dismantling of this country.” You’ve fallen into the same idiot trap that landed most of these congressional monkeys in the seat in the first place. You didn’t read, pay attention, understand or hear what is being said. You and Romona should volunteer for Government run Sterilization just in case you two decide you want to procreate and indoctrinate a new generation of useless individuals.
Katy Abram is dumber than Joe the Plumber.
I wonder if Katy Abram has ever taken an IQ test. I’m sure she has one (an IQ), but it can’t be very high!
i just saw katy on chris mathews and confirmed to me that she’s an idiot,people like her so misinformed about what is important.her parents are about to be getting medicare or medicade,and she said she would repeal it,that the goverment should not be in charge.who should? insurance companies?then maybe she will be happy about not knowing whats going on in the real world.
Dear Katy et al:
A black man was elected President. He is our democratically elected representative. No faux outrage over the mismanagement of this country by the two former rich white men. Now, six months in, this country is ruined, socialist, facisit, tarnished by whom? Your true “colors” are showing.
Katy is proof that the USA believes in free speech. When someone so uninformed, so out of touch, so completely (and sadly) confused and totally without any understanding of the context and content of the debate can be allowed to stand up and confront a Senator, the First Amendment is alive and well! She went on Hardball today and further made a fool of herself by demonstrating how achingly and embarrassingly stupid she is on the subjects of health care, medicare, social security, the wars we are in, and the CONSTITUTION! She claims there are “programs” in place that the founding fathers didn’t want. What an idiot!! Not only could she NOT know what programs the founders would want some 200+ years later, but she has evidently forgotten that SLAVERY was a “program” in place at the inception of this country. SHE needs to continue to be the right wing nut-job windbag Republican face of this debate. She’s the female Joe the Plumber! Uninformed, uneducated on the facts and yet running her mouth!! It would be laughable if it wasn’t so very serious. Hey, Katy, read a newspaper some day! and by the way FOX NEWS isn’t news!
This is not a smart woman watched her on MSNBC and she is a dolt. She does not know the facts, or history.
This woman is what is wrong with this country loud mouth know nothings. My 14 year old is better educted than this woman. I am disgusted. Sleeping tiger HA!!!
How about instead of praising this woman who does not have ANY facts straight. Grill her , reveal her for the dummy she is. Maybe her husband can tell her what to think about that!
I just watched Katy Abrams on MSNBC & FOX, she is stupid & moronic…When she was yelling at Sen. Specter at that town hall for no apparent reason, (staged ya think!!) she said it wasn’t about left or right, then she goes onto to tell everyone she’s a Republican. Hmm!?!? She holds up a sign (outside mind you picketing against healthcare reform) that says she wants “freedom”. Ahhh freedom from what Katy, did someone get to you?? People aren’t stupid, we see what’s going on. Orchestrated yelling & chaos, venom spewing, telling lies, no solutions (not much has changed Republicans). Katy said to MSNBC after being asked by Laurence O’Donnell, “How much do you make?” She said she didn’t want to answer (national TV and she won’t answer LOL). She went on to say she didn’t want to get taxed. She probably makes less than 250K, so therefore she won’t get taxed (fear tactics), only $250K +. She sounded very cryptic, unsure at times like she was hiding something or not sure what to say, and yet very discreet too (Did she read over her talking points memo??). Either way she didn’t come across as informed or even remotely intelligent. Lastly, she told Laurence O’Donnell that she had health insurance and that she has a $5000 deductible. $5000 DEDUCTIBLE!!!!! Nice crappy public insurance plan, looks like a Republican could use some HEALTHCARE REFORM!!! It’s coming people, sorry to those who aren’t interested in providing a solution and just want to fear monger. I feel RUSSIA coming LOL, back to the USSR. Sing it LMAO!!!
Hey iDOknowPOLITICS!,
I agree with everything you just said…She is so stupid & nice healthcare with that $5000 deductible…I’m surprised she didn’t whack Arlen with that microphone…What a joke!!! Birthers, deathers, ann coulter b*****s…Karl Rove is going to PRISON LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you, thank you, thank you Katy! For the guts to say what so many are thinking and for being so brave to put yourself on the front lines; take the heat from others who are can’t or won’t do it for themselves. I’m neither a Dem or Republican. It’s amazing to watch the spin about how it is “unAmerican” to have an opinion that differs from the masses. You go girl! Please know that there are many who share your views even if they don’t share your political party!!
Katy, you are a moron….
what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this board is now dumber for having read to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Don’t sweat it. Our Creator is in control, so why aren’t we trying to think, speak and act as he has tried to teach us in the best and only text book ever – the B I B L E.
Katy dear – if we go back to what the founding fathers envisioned, you wouldn’t be able to vote.
Cringe inducing ignorance. So classy !
Well, it’s VERY obvious that the last several posts were written by the same person, posing under different names. They all say the same thing with the same condescending arrogance. Katy is free to speak her mind, and I’m glad she did! She made very valid points. The MAJORITY in this nation are AGAINST this idiotic, costly, government plan. The liberals who want it are truly deceived and will one day “wake up” to realize it (like when they are denied health care or have to wait months and months to receive some medical care or to see a doctor). They just hang on every word that Obama says and they truly believe all the drivel that comes from his mouth. They can’t think for themselves but are so easily manipulated and deceived. Then, all they can do is put down opponents, calling them “morons” but never actually engaging in any type of intelligent or constructive debate. Sorry, Libs, but you are NOT the majority. The MAJORITY do NOT want this Obamacare. The majority are not mindless idiots (well, some are because they voted for Obama) and they can read a bill and make up their own minds about it. Oh, and by the way, I am a black woman, so don’t you dare accuse me of racism! We all know, anyways, that every lib. who doesn’t like what a conservative has to say accuses them of racism. It’s getting pretty old, people!
WAY TO GO KATY!!!! Don’t let anyone intimidate you. We Americans have a right to our free speech, and it’s about time these politicians listened to us!! We are fed up with Obama and his arrogance and his intrusion in our lives. We do not want all this government control, and I agree with Katy, it’s like we are becoming Russia, a nation with a dictatorship in which the people’s voice is ignored and the government dictates everything and intrudes in the public sector in every way. And it’s scary and depressing. I can’t stand Obama. I can’t wait to see him out of office. He is destroying this nation.
Obamacare isn’t about care for the people. It’s all about Obama and his power trip and his ego. People who don’t realize this are morons. The health care plan will even allow them to access your bank accounts. i bet most of the proponents of it haven’t even read it and certainly haven’t read that part. And if they have, then they are so blind and stupid because they actually believe Obama’s lies and think that big government is their friend. Big government doesn’t care about anything but control. Obama is all about control. Control of health industry, control of the auto industry, control of banks, control of the media, on and on. God forbid this health care plan passes. Thank God for people like Katy and the others who’ve spoken out. I hope they continue to. We are Americans and we do not want this government control of our nation.
There are many good citizens in this nation who feel the same way as Katy. Our voices are simply ignored or dismissed by a liberal media who controls the news. It’s good to see the people making their voices heard at these town halls, even though many of these elitist politicians dismiss them or ignore them. They live in a Capitol Hill bubble, where they don’t realize how the nation is truly feeling. They listen to a media who are just a bunch of Obama-butt-kissers. And they truly believe that everything is just peachy and everyone loves Obama and wants what they want. Well, it’s not true. Katy is the voice of the people. We oppose this massive health care “reform” plan. It’s not true reform at all. It’s simply a takeover of the health insurance industry. Eventually, none of the private insurance companies will be able to compete with Obamacare and we will ALL be forced to be under the plan. What better way for Obama and the liberals in the White House to force us all into enslavement to government. I hope that there will be some sort of Revolution against this. We had a Revolution once before. We certainly can do it again. And it’s time. Obama is bankrupting this country, enslaving us all to governnet, and he is like a runaway steam train barralling down a track… one that is headed off a cliff. We need more men and women to speak out like Katy did. She is not alone in how she feels. Many of us feel the same way, Katy. Many of us are fed up, scared, anxious, and disgusted by Obama and these politicians and their spending and their corruption and their policies. Many of us are fed up with how they have forgotten that they work for us! We are fed up and we are not afraid to say it.
A health insurance plan with a $5000 deductible is not a bad plan. IF you save money and don’t have tons of debt. Those people who do not save and who do like Obama, spend, spend, spend, and have loads of debt, they are the idiots. I have an emergency savings plan with $10,000 in there. My car is paid off, I do not have credit card debt, and I do not spend wastefully (unlike Obama and our govt officials). A $5000 deductible is not outrageous for me. I pay for my own health insurance plan, and while it is not as good as the former plan I had from my former employer, I do not want a government plan. No way!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I agree with Katy and her comments. I agree with the others who’ve expressed their fears and anger at these meetings and on the internet. There’s a lot of reason to be concerned and fearful. Obama couldn’t even run Cash for Clunkers. They blew threw all that money in days. If they can’t even handle something like that, how on earth will they handle a massive government health insurance plan? It will most definitely be like Canada with long waits for doctors, rationed care, poor quality of care. There is no way around it. We do not have enough doctors for this plan. We do not have enough money for it. We already have a HUGE growing deficit. For me, I am making darn sure that I have a personal doctor. If this thing passes, I would advise everyone to make sure they have a doctor. Otherwise, you try to get one, and you might have to literally wait for years because the waiting list will be very long. There will also be doctors who leave the profession if this monster passes. I have already read things by some who’ve said they’d leave. They will be forced to comply with govt mandates- possbily forced to perform abortions and or not give needed care to the elderly– they would rather leave than be forced to do something that goes against their values and purpose for their work. I don’t blame them. This health care plan is a monstrosity and a horrible, horrible thing.
KATY, you are awesome!!!! Who cares what these rude, pompous, egomaniacs in here have to say about you- all they know is insults and put-downs. You were great with Specter. I saw the video and was cheering you on! I am a woman about your age and feel just as you do, and wish I could’ve been there in person to witness it. I probably would’ve cried. This plan, and Obama, do make me cry because it’s so frightening the things he is up to, and I seriously think I despise him. I can’t help it. He is so full of himself and so arrogant. He only cares about his plan, not about what the majority of us want. THANK YOU Katie for speaking for all of us who haven’t been able to speak out like you did!
HAHAHA! How come everyone who speaks up against health care is so ignorant of the issue and the constitution itself? Katie, you were let off the hook. O’donnell obviously felt sorry for you; he realized just how nutter you were and let you prove it to the viewers. Sad.
Boy, whom-so-ever didn’t discourage a nice woman like Katy from going on Hardball should be shot. I felt so sorry for her. O’Donnel went ballistic about the Swift Boaters when Kerry was running. Between Mathews, O’Donnel, Shuster, Olbermann. Walsh,Maddow, et al MSNBC is a meat grinder for any guest close to “center”.
Wow I never thought I would see the day when a stay @ home mom would be attacked for her views by elected officials, the liberal media and the liberal public. While I’m not surprised by these tactics I am disheartened at the levels many will sink to silence any opposition to their power and control. Regardless of your politics when the current Congress is adding hundreds of pages to bills in the middle of the night mere hours before a vote on the house floor….we should all be standing up in opposition. Elected officials represent us and if they are not given the time to read a bill before they vote on it exactly how well are they representing our best interests as a country?
Mrs. Abram had the courage to challenge her elected official on a bill/vote and she is being demonized and insulted….WHY? You may not agree with her but that does not give anyone the right to insult her, ridicule her or demonize her. Instead question her idea…but praise the person with the courage and conviction to challenge her elected official.
Thank you Mrs. Abram for your willingness to stand up and challenge this bill and I’m sorry you have become a punching bag for the left. You are among good company in this fight and soon this too will pass….
A Texas Conservative
Richard, The only thing that is “sad” is idiots like you who are so duped that you can’t even see straight. You seriously need to wake up and stop letting yourself be deluded. It will only come back to bite you in the butt one day and by then, it might be too late for you. Katie is right. Our constitution is being disregarded. Government was never supposed to have so much control over the individual’s life as Obama is giving it. And I have read most of the entire health care bill. It stinks. It’s awful and intrusive and horribly expensive. How do you propose Richard that we are going to pay for it? I’d love to hear an intelligent answer about that from some of you deluded proponents of it. You think Obama truly cares about you and you are for anything and everything that he proposes, aren’t you? You know you are. Be a man, Richard! Learn to think for yourself. Get a spine. It’d do you some good.
Did I hear that right? Katy said she “Honestly I didn’t care” when asked why 911 did not awaken here sleeping tiger? Another idiot who doesn’t know what shes talking about. When faced with the truth change the subject. How embarrassing for all of us.
Just watched the interview on Hardball, I will say lucky for her matthews had the night off. She needs to be better prepared, and how could this lady not pay attention to 2 wars and 9/11. She looked worse than Joe the Plummer. She should stick to the softball interviews on Fox News.
I just saw her interview on Hardball. She appeared to be incapable of comprehending, let alone answering O’Donnells questions. It was Sarah Palin and Katie Couric all over again.
Katy , you are a uneducated person, go back and study what is socialism, we are already practicing good socialism , e.g. social security and medicare. Do you want to get rid of them ?
It’s pitiful the way some of these politicians just disregard American’s voice and opinions, like Katy’s. Now, we all know the media is ga-ga over Obmama and thinks that everything he touches turns to gold (rolling eyes), so O’Donnell’s arrogance in his interview is really no surprise. The sad thing is is that the politicians buy it too. They believe the media’s reports and can’t see through their biased delusions. That is why they are shocked and surprised at all the outrage out there. They need to get out of their glass houses and remember that they work for us. We pay their salaries. We voted for them. HOW DARE they disregard our voice or treat us like children! HOW DARE THEY! And HOW DARE Obama cram this hideous bill, along with all his other stupid things, like TARP, down our throats! There are going to be alot of Democrats out of a job next election! And let’s hope Obama is out a job in 4 years! Let’s get these people out of office. Obama has asked people to report “fishy” emails for goodness sakes. And he is straight-out lying about a lot of this stuff with the health bill. WHO DO THESE PEOPLE THINK THEY ARE!?!? It’s obvious that they think we are just a bunch of idiots who just sit and watch t.v. and nod our heads in agreement with everything Obama says. Well, we’ve got news for you. WE ARE MAD!!! We are sick and tired, fed up, disgusted, ticked off, and we are going to fight back against all the government meddling in our lives. Obviously government has a role in this nation, but Obmama is really pushing it. When they start taking over car companies, LOOK OUT!!!!! What the heck is up with that?! And now health care?! I just want to SCREAM!!!!!!!
Way to use those Liberal talking points, there, Wilson. Got an original thought?
PlLEEEEEZ! Please make Katy Abram famous, please, oh please! Not-really-Joe the not-really-Plumber, get in the back of the pickup, you have been outclassed and unseated as outspoken-moron-flavor of the month.
Katy Abrams hurry back! Do every talk show that you can. I just saw you interviewed by Lawrence O’Donnell, having no idea we are at war, comfortable with wars that never end, and confessed as JUST NOT INTERESTED in 9-11 and whatever wars Mr. O’Donnell says our country is having, or the people dying in those wars (what people? Ay-rabs and our army guys? Those aren’t people!).
You were awesome, K.A. You really, REALLY represent, girl. Don’t you dare fade back into the woodwork, missy. STAY IN THE SPOTLIGHT. Unless the Democrats are all asleep at the switch, I predict you are about to become unforgettable, hon.
Sarah Palin, you too. Back of the pickup.
ROTFLMHO.
woman was an idiot. i can GUARANTEE she and her husband make the amount of money that would get a very nice tax rebate from obama. GUARANTEE.
she has no clue, did not even understand medicare. if the country went back to her beloved founding father, Katy could not vote, get a job or go to college.
Well, now, I hope we hear more from this young lady. We need to hear how she doesn’t know what her family’s income is because hew husband pays the bills etc. That she used to sit with her father and watch the Teevee after 9/11 but she didn’t really care about it because she was getting married. We need to hear her real opinions about stuff because she is really pretty and hot and way younger than Sarah Palin and not as rehearsed and really simple and not afraid that people think she’s brainless because as long as she’s real we’ll sit and listen to her say words because well, look at her, man. Look how cute she looked in her cheerleading outfit and how dare Larry O’Donnell show that he’s smarter about politics and stuff just because he’s older and went to college and had a career in politics and she’s ONLY 35 years old? How rude and condescending. Not like Justin who seems to be carrying a high school boy-crush on one of the cheerleaders becasue he was a geek then and isn’t now.
Pretty sad when people come here just to bash Katy, a citizen who simply spoke her mind. And now some in here are saying “she needs to be better prepared.” Oh brother. She isn’t a politician and wasn’t even expecting to be on t.v. She simply spoke her mind at a townhall meeting, as a free citizen and concerned person, and now her interviewing skills are being scrutinized. Some people serioulsy need to get a life! But then they do this with everyone… Carrie Prejean, Sarah Palin, Joe the Plumber, Liz Cheney. How is it that every single conservative somehow gives bad interviews, is an “idiot,” is “racist,” and “doesn’t know what they’re talking about?” LOL!! Liberals just can’t even think straight when it comes to conservatives. They don’t realize that they accuse every single conservative person of the same things. Just shows their true colors and how prejudice they are towards conservatives. Kinda humorous and pathetic though if you ask me.
PLEEEEEZ! Please make Katy Abram famous, please, oh please! Not-really-Joe the not-really-Plumber, get in the back of the pickup, you have been outclassed and unseated as outspoken-moron-flavor of the month.
Katy Abrams hurry back! Do every talk show that you can. I just saw you interviewed by Lawrence O’Donnell, having no idea we are at war, comfortable with wars that never end, and confessed as JUST NOT INTERESTED in 9-11 and whatever wars Mr. O’Donnell says our country is having, or the people dying in those wars (what people? Ay-rabs and our army guys? Those aren’t people!).
You were awesome, K.A. You really, REALLY represent, girl. Don’t you dare fade back into the woodwork, missy. STAY IN THE SPOTLIGHT. Unless the Democrats are all asleep at the switch, I predict you are about to become unforgettable, hon.
Sarah Palin, you too. Back of the pickup.
It’s so obious that there is this one liberal in this forum who just keeps posting the same stuff under different names. How sad that they live their life bashing someone like Katie all day long on the internet. I really feel sorry for them.
She was so STUPID I watched Katy on Hardball twice!!! : )
Katy is so deliciously stupid and ignorant of the facts that I just HAD to watch it again!!
Please note that Katy’s supporters here speak out in one-liners like “Way to go!” and “You go Girl” supplemented by the very, very, general talking points that they have swallowed whole from d-bags like Beck and Hannity. Things like how she is “American” to “speak up” and she has “guts” to speak her “mind”. (And for Katy the word mind DOES belong in quotes.) Her supporters, like she, have no real grasp of the real facts involved here. That’s a bit like cheering for the losing team at a football game when you don’t know who’s playing, don’t know the rules of the game, or even the score. So cheer on dimwits!
Katy is not even sure what she’s against. And THAT is her greatest sin. She talks about increased taxes but has no idea how much money her family business even makes so she has no idea if they would face increased taxation. She said that “it seems like” they want to raise taxes to pay for the health care reform. “Seems like” is not much an argument. And she wants the CHOICE to keep her $5000+ deductible plan!!! Astonishing! This is proof positive of a person with no clue. The fact that they pay everything out of pocket is not something to be proud of! It means that she doesn’t understand health plans both when purchasing one AND when opposing one. That plan is NOT A GREAT CHOICE KATY!
This poor woman has made a complete and total buffoon of herself and you who support her should take pity on her and not encourage her to speak out anymore. I agree she has guts. It takes guts to go on national TV and speak on a topic about which she couldn’t make a point, establish a cogent argument, or even have the most minor of facts straight.
O’Donnell’s grin said it all. So to all the Katy supporters: Keep hanging on to your heroine and keep believing in her courage. She’s proof that the blind CAN lead the blind!
Oh, and Health care reform IS going to happen!
This woman has the IQ of an artichoke. It is hard for me to believe that a d*******g like this is on TV. She is just spouting out Republican “Party of No” comments like a pretty little robotic moron.
Typical liberal rhetoric. Don’t like the message, attack the messenger. fregan, no matter how hard you try, you’ll never be interesting enough to offed me.
at first judging by her comments to Arlen Spector it is clear she is ignorant. Then she actually had the stupidity to go on Hardball this afternoon, how unbelievable that in this day in age people can actually be such complete idiots! Sometimes I wonder under what rock do some people live in. Someone needs to shame some people into realizing just how stupid they really are. When the U.S. Constitiution was written it was re-written at least four times because the founding Fathers did not want to give freedom to all only whites, women were not allowed to vote (only seen not heard). I wish I had been there with Arlen Spector and told this idiot just how really dumb she is. She needs to go back to her little business and let her husband handle the money since she probably had no idea how to add or subtract! It would do her good to take a history lesson. She is one of the idiots that says “keep the government out of Medicaid”
Fregan/Enrique/CarlyCorday/Wilson/Sammie/Patriot/”Pete”Ball/RichardParadis/D.R…. and all the other “aliases” you use… it’s so totally obvious that you are the same person. All your posts say the same thing… Katy you are an idiot, Katy go away. Are you jealous of her or something?????? You have some serious problems.
This liberal person who just keeps posting the same jealous bashing Katy posts sounds like a jealous, mentally unstable person. I mean who sits on the internet posting post after post bashing someone like this person keeps doing? Please get yourself some help!!!!! You have problems and are not doing anyone any good, and it’s people like you who became menaces to society. Chill out and get a grip.
Katy, I love what you had to say. There’s so many of us like you, and I wish I could’ve had that microphone. I would’ve said very similar things. And you are a great sport to do these interviews. You did not have to do them, obviously, yet you did. I am just as concerned as you are, and let’s really hope that this bill does not pass. It’s people like you, me, and all the others who can truly make a change in this nation. Obama’s change is obviously not what we want. And don’t worry about this lone liberal in here who keeps posting the same things over and over and over bashing you. The more he posts, the more his instability shows through.
“Claudi” (one of many aliases of the same poster) said: “how unbelievable that in this day in age people can actually be such complete idiots!” Yes, how unbelievable. You need to look in a mirror. Because to me, it’s unbelievable that people like you don’t see your own idiocy. I think you honestly need help… psychological help. You act like you are literally obsessed with Katy and how she got an interview. You are actually quite frightening and it’s people like you who end up snapping and doing crazy things. So, please, for the sake of all of us, GET HELP!!!!!!!
The only part of Kath’s last post that was accurate was that Katy IS an idiot and Katy SHOULD go away!
NOBODY is attacking the messenger!!! In order to be a messenger YOU HAVE TO HAVE A MESSAGE!!!!
Katy’s Junior High School level view of the world is not a message anyone should be defending.
“CarlyCorday” (another of the many aliases) said: “You were awesome, K.A. You really, REALLY represent, girl. Don’t you dare fade back into the woodwork, missy. STAY IN THE SPOTLIGHT. Unless the Democrats are all asleep at the switch, I predict you are about to become unforgettable, hon.”
This is just plain frightening that someone is so obsessed with Katy having an interview. It’s like this person is jealous? I don’t get this kind of thinking at all. I seriously think this person needs to get off the internet, make a doc. appt. with a good therapist, and get out there in the real world. PLEASE!!!!
Hey, DARN IT (should have said). I’m my own liberal self, Cath, the other liberals are not me, except where I posted twice from inexperience with this website. Google me, I’m just Carly Corday, eveywhere I go. The voice in your head is not real. It’s… Oh forget it.
To “really feel sorry for them”, when you just swore that the “them” is all one person posting here all day under several names, raises a red flag that says take yore meds. Use of the schizophrenic “them” when referring to one person is a sure indicator.
Ok, that’s enough advice to you, our time is valuable. We’re leaving.
Despite Ms Abrams passion, In the end I feel her fear of disrupting the status quo ultimately and unwittingly serves the interest of the insurance companies. Those of us that favor health care reform are more concerned with the health of the general public and the costs of our presently failing system. I promise everyone reading this, the insurance companies will find plenty of ways to make money no matter what the bill looks like when it comes out of congress.
I think it is ignorant to believe that the only people without insurance are are illegal immigrants and the unemployed. There are other people in this country who work just as hard as everyone else who either don’t have the benefit of an employer who provides health care or have an insurance plan that does not meet their needs. Deductibles and co-pays are often as back-breaking as having no coverage at all.
I also think that too many people hear the word “socialized” and automatically jump to the “dismantling of the US constitution”. Like it or not, there are certain public institutions that are socialized and can not and/or should not be run any other way. Imagine if our fire departments or police departments were not socialized. The right to personal safety is not written into the constitution either, but no one seems to have a problem with these institutions.
I like to think that I’m open-minded enough to hear both sides of the story before forming my opinion, in fact, I prefer to know exactly what I’m arguing for or against, but I have yet to hear anyone come out with a valid argument against socialized healthcare. So I invite any of you out there, not to start screaming profanities and yelling about what a socialist idiot you think the democrats are, but to actually rise to the challenge and tell me exactly why socialized healthcare is damaging to this country. And please, don’t spout off something you heard on Bill O’Reilly, because I have no respect for those who like to argue for the sake of arguing. Back yourself up with facts. Thank you.
Lawrence O’Donnle did not interrupt Katy Abrahm. She refused to confirm that “socialized” Medicare and “socialized” Social Security should be repealed. It proved she’s a loud mouthed hypocrite.
I’ve got news for you Katy, there is another sleeping giant getting awakened by all the death threats and racist comments coming from the right. Its the majority that elected Obama to the presidency back last November. You all need to watch out.
What I want to know is whats up with her crappy $5,000.00 deductible? Thats basically catastrophic insurance?. Katie, you better pray that your Husband continues to pay your bills or wants to. At 35 you better get with the program. There’s almost a bigger issue here and it’s our School system. I see that theres a majority of people who have obviously fallen through the cracks. Katy states she’s not that smart, so why do we need a town idiot ringing the bell! If you lived in a time of our Founding Father’s, as a women you’d be living a life of servitude with no right’s at all.
I watched that segment with Katy, and O’Donnell was asking questions as if in a normal conversation. He didn’t interrupt her but repeated his questions because she didn’t appear to understand them and/or didn’t know what to say. He was at no time patronizing. I felt sorry for her because she didn’t have a clue of what she was talking about. With the reform, she also didn’t realize if she chose to keep her insurance with a $500 deductible and pay all medical expenses out-of-pocket every year (since her family doesn’t meet the deductible), she can continue to keep it.
Perhaps, Katy needs to educate herself on all sides of the issue before she speaks. Katy seems like a lovely woman, but she also appears to be very gullible. I truly felt embarrassed for her. She looked like Sarah Palin-lite.
Thank you, Ramona! I couldn’t have said it better.
Apparently, Katy and her spouse have insurance with a $500 deductible (per her statement on “Hard Ball”)…… a deductible that her family cannot meet every year, therefore, their medical expenses are paid out-of-pocket. She does not want this to change with the reform.
Katy is a racist. THIS is what she Responded to:
CALL TO ARMS….CALL TO ARMS…..JULY 4TH….INDEPENDENCE HALL- PHILADELPHIA..READ ON ALL PATRIOTS. NOW IS YOUR CHANCE TO GET IN OBAMA’S FACE. SIGN UP NOW $30.00 PER PERSON. ————–BERKS TEA PARTY. ORG HEAR YE, HEAR YE: Let me give you a quick update on what’s been happening. I am sorry that I haven’t communicated with you before. We have been busy getting everything prepared. We have joined with the Philadelphia area tea party groups as well as statewide and national groups. We have organized a bus trip to Philadelphia for a protest on July 4th at Independence Hall. I understand that Obama will be there so we need a good turnout. We will have our website up and running soon. It will be http://www.berksteaparty.org. For the time being you can contact us through berksteaparty@hotmail.com————THE TIME TO STAND IS NOW! THE FACT THAT THIS ABORTION OF A PRESIDENT WILL BE AT INDEPENDENCE HALL STANDING ON OUR HALLOWED GROUND IS ENOUGH TO MAKE ONE SICK. MAKE YOUR SIGNS. MAKE THEM BIG. GET ON THE BUS. GO TO PHILLY. BOO THE CRAP OUT OF THIS ILLEGAL PRESIDENT.
From the Reading Eagle newspaper. 6/23/2009 1:04:07 PM
When interviewed Katy REFUSED to admit she earns less than $250K.
Katy became CONFUSED when asked if she would tell her Mom and Dad to REFUSE Social Security and Medicare.
Katy DID NOT KNOW these are Socialist Programs.
What an idiot.
Will the Republicans nominate Katy for President in 2012?
KATH:
So many posts saying the same thing. “There can’t be that many people who think she’s sort of a dim bulb. They must be the same person! Yeah, that’s the ticket!”
You should ask usconservatives to monitor the email addresses and verify to you that there are many folks here who aren’t very taken by KA or think she was awesome.
Unless this one person has about a hundred email addresses and can use a different sock-puppet name to disparage KA. Yeah, that’s how he does it! That’s it. He’s not fooling Kath. She’s just too clued in on how they do stuff to screw with our minds. Thanks Kath!
My word. Katy was so uninformed. She had no idea that both Medicare and Social Security are both socialist programs for just as important that Medicare is a single payor system. Lawrence O’Donnell attempted to be gentle but it was so obvious he was speaking to an uninformed, less than intelligent individual. Sarah Palin has returned.
Wow, how impressive. Catch a stay-at-home mom off guard with the intense political spotlight and then rip her apart. Sounds about right for the left side.
Absolutely, freakin’ amazing how the only thing you guys can do is rip on someone who had more guts than any of you. Quite easy to sit behind your little keyboards and say all sorts of mind numbing insults.
You want say she is wrong in her opinion…go read the freakin’ bill. Tell her how wrong she is with facts from the bill – but you wouldn’t…that would take way more energy than bashing Katy. You might actually find out you aren’t as smart as you think you are. Awww, could let that happen to your little egos!
I’m so glad to hear that you posters are SO informed. And you obviously know Katy so well that you can speak with authority how little intelligence she has. You guys are amazing!! If I need answers, can I just come to you?
A Pennsylvanian says:
Katy is a racist. THIS is what she Responded to:
Maybe you need to bring some proof with this one.
I do not support the current plans, but her appearance on hardball was awful. It is obvious that she read from a script during the town hall, She should have never agreed to a TV interview. Clearly she is not well versed in her argument against health care. The discussion should have focused on the healthcare reform but she regretfully choose to make it a discussion on economic theory..and yes socialism is an economic theory and not a political system.
I just watched this interview. Katy Abram is a moron!! She has no idea what Obama’s healthcare plan contains, doesn’t understand that this country has numerous “social” programs that her and her family use, she doesn’t even know what her family income is. This woman embodies “dumb america”
Dear KP:
Yes, any time you need answers about this you may come to me!
No one should confuse Katy’s willingness to spend her 15 minutes of fame on TV confronting Senator Specter and going on news programs to talk (at some excruciating length) about something about which she has no clue…with having guts!
I would certainly have the “guts” to do as she has. The difference is that I FOLLOW POLITICS and am aware of what is going on and have read all the information available (from non-partisan sources) and thus I would KNOW what to talk about and how to articulate my thoughts and beliefs.
Katy’s sin is not that she isn’t a skilled public speaker. It’s that she spoke publicly with no information. SHE WASN”T PREPARED. Or worse, that she thinks simply knowing the RW talking points IS preparedness. That makes her look like an idiot. The fact that she has no idea what she’s against makes her an actual idiot. Or more accurately a ditto head follower who ingests, believes, and then regurgitates what she has been fed by the right. And when she was puking her “beliefs” all over all of us on Hardball and with Specter…..IDIOT! I could not care less about Katy. It’s what she represents that annoys me and should embarrass her (and you!) She IS part of a conspiracy. The part that’s called a SHILL! She’s speaking up against her own best interests and she doesn’t even know it. I guarantee the RW and their insurance cronies are laughing at her behind her back.
5th graders do more research for a stinkin’ book report!
What non-partisan sources are they, if I may inquire?
“The City on a Hill”
Yes, that is what this is all about. For all of these years, both internationally and domestically, only a privileged few have been allowed access to City on a Hill. Now, the game has changed and with it all the b.s. intellectual superiority etc. used to keep others out. No, the founders left out some segments and progress shall fill them in.
TOILET PAPER KATY’S HOUSE CAMPAIGN
Please help Katy out…send in a roll of TP to FOXNews so they can foward it on to Katy. This way she and her family never have to worry about standing in line for it ever again.
Spinny
Katy Abram is a simple-minded pawn. She doesn’t know why she’s angry, she doesn’t understand the healthcare plan, she has no knowledge of American history. She simply spewed the boilerplate conservative “outrage” she was fed…and she’s so dumb she went on national tv and continued the uninformed conversation.
It is all well and good to hold town hall meetings that allow all kinds of folks to stand up and say their peace, but does the media really have to focus the debate on the irrational ramblings of idiots and give them additional forums to espouse their ignorance? This woman was on Hardball tonight and was a complete buffoon. She complains that making health care accessible to everyone will raise her taxes but when asked whether her family was making over $250K therefore likely to incur some increase, she said she didn’t know because her husband looks after the finances! She doesn’t know approx. how much her family makes?!? Where does she live? In the 1890’s?? She doesn’t care enough to understand the finances of her own family, but she’s going to make comments on the proper use of government funds. Great! Just who’s input we need.
She then rambled on about socialism which I’m sure she couldn’t define with a dictionary in front of her, and then wouldn’t comment about whether she’d advocate doing away with other social programs like social security and Medicaid because she apparently didn’t understand the question. If you are so utterly uninformed about issues than you should NOT have a voice in this debate. My dog can stamp out “No!” with her foot too, but I wouldn’t let her question my representative!
The state of this country sickens me. I spent 26 years in the Navy, put my life on the line, and defended my country proudly, but now I feel as if I’ve wasted my life. I see so much egotism, bigotry, and downright hatred. It sickens me, and to think of the military being political, smells of bananas if you know what I mean.
We have taken the path of Greece, Rome, and Britain and we will stand on the sidelines begging to have the leftover scraps. What is sad is that we deserve it. Too many times we had the opportunity to live up to our ideals and the all mighty dollar was more important.
I’ve been a Conservative, a liberal, an independent, and now a progressive. One sex scandal and eight years of dirty politics nearly destroyed us and now our hatred of the African American race will finish us. China must be very happy to see this happening; it makes it very inexpensive for them; that and the fact that they just about own us financially.
No I don’t blame Bush exclusively for this, the Dems in Congress should have had more cojones and fought him. I will say that Bush did have a surplus which he promptly gave to the top 2%ers.
We had better get our acts together or we will surely all sink together (how’s that CWO for a metphor?). As to our fore fathers, I don’t think any present day American would appreciate what they would say about what we have done to their idea. We have managed to avoid Royalty, but were caught by the Corporations who corrupted our country for their own selfish purposes.
True Conservatives and Liberals know that there is a time to be partisan and a time to be an American, I guess it’s just the true statesmen have all gone home…
Is she the smartest conservative?
Katy Abram is a sleeping tiger. She is one of millions of sleeping tigers who continue to be tricked by the Republicans, their corporate backers, and their fear pandering spokesmen into supporting positions against their best interests. It is obvious that Katy Abram and others like her have no clue the effects of the positions they take based on the words of lying trash like Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, and other vermin. Sadly, there are tens of millions of these sleeping tigers whose minds will never awaken, because they lack the intelligence and logic to analyze what they hear, and figure out which position is preferable. We are living in a nation of morons, and the Birthers, Deathers, Death-Taxers, Hawaii-is-not-a-staters, and numerous other conservative nutball groups are proving just how… RETARDED… a great portion of our populace is. God save the United States!
Okay, Katy. I see what you’re saying. You’ve heard some stuff about President Obama. You’ve never really cared about the government and its news, even though you’re living off of it like every other American, and you’re finally fed up with something you just heard about. You “became informed” these past TWO days and you think you understand everything.
You quoted something that the president supposedly said back in 2002. 2002? Seriously? Why don’t you find a video of when he said that? Oh, right. You probably misheard what he really said from a friend. I saw that confusion on your face. You didn’t care about politics until this past April, right?
I’m going to be honest with you, Katy, because I think you’re a little misguided. I think you’re surrounded by conservatives and Republicans (most likely including your husband). You are one of those people who vote as their friends say they should. So, when your friends told you about the Health Care Plan and that they think they think it will turn America into a Socialist government, you probably thought to yourself, “I have to do something about this.”
Do you have a single liberal or Democratic friend that you’ve ever discussed politics with? No. Why? You don’t care. You have never cared about politics. All you care about is that your bills get paid and that you get the clothes and food you want. This isn’t about politics. This is about being greedy with your money, which that isn’t a bad thing if you keep it under control.
Be honest with yourself. There would be nothing wrong with your opinions and what you’re saying if it was honesty. You are telling yourself that you finally understand politics, when actually, you understand how much you like your money.
You don’t care about all of the people suffering because of lack of healthcare and poverty. You care about yourself. Again, I will say, it’s not bad to care about yourself. But you’re not talking about your selfishness; you’re talking about your “political views.”
Some politics, Katy. Give yourself a break and make a list of priorities. Being selfish is okay. Lying is not.
Wow, Katy. Way to be ignorant.
I think the author of the article drinks too much rum every night, and Katy doesn’t drink enough. I also think it’s amazing finding out how many constitutional experts there are in the general public, LMAO! Forget the debate, forget the whole thing. Pull the plug on medicare, medicaid, and social security. Just shut them down. Figure what everybody payed into them through taxes, reimberse everyone, and move on. The laid off government workers can be added to the unemployment figures, and everybody is on their own. Oh ya, include any federal or state family services, public hospitals, clinics, law enforcement, fire and rescue, schools, teachers, school buses, public transportation, infrastructure repairs, etc…. nobody wants to pay taxes, so get rid of it all. Who needs government???? No courts, judges, no military, no National Guard. Everybody pays too much taxes!!! Right? PROBLEM SOLVED! The private sector will provide all these services at a fair cost, right? Corruption and rip offs will end! Complete free market capitalism, true choice and liberty! No taxes! NONE! OMG! I am a genius!!! LOL!
If Katy Abram is going to do all the television- she should also do the research — although that probably wasn’t necessary for carrying the water on FOX News and S. Hannity– (Re Hardball: Do we really believe the woman does not know her family income?– Or would answering that question have blown her argument — as weak as it was- out of the water?)
Also in relation to the cell phone calls suggesting that she might be racist, It is true that no one deserves that kind of reaction for speaking their mind. Especially the senators getting death threats for supporting health care. They do not deserve swasticas painted on their offices.
Katy Abram is nothing more than Joe The Plumber Mk.II.– The tool du jour.
I watched the Hardball interview with this kookie twit. The host really laid her out and showed how little these wingnuts know what they’re talking about – but hey she fits in with that crowd perfectly – never let the truth get in the way of your rants. Great job Msnbc – too bad these people are too stupid to actually watch shows like this.
I saw her interview on Hardball and she was obviously clueless. She was another Rethuglican zombie that showed up to harass Senator Spector. These people are a joke. I am proud to be an American but I am ashamed to be living in a country with so many uninformed and uneducated Palin worshiping imbeciles!!!! FYI Rethuglican dumb a*****: health insurance reform will pass this year and in future years, your party will become less relevant in national politics.
This woman read a pre-printed piece of right-wing lies, and ends up a mini-celebrity. When challenged on her points, she can’t back anything up. She professes her previous ignorance, but can’t explain why she’s active *now*.
She doesn’t know how much her household income is because her husband takes care of the money, but she knows about their healthcare spending account and how much her deductible is.
Shill. Plant. Worse yet – she’s a dupe for corporate interests that don’t care about her or her family’s welfare or health.
i do not feel sorry for katy in the least after the hardball interview. it was obvious she is clueless and she got what she deserved by getting undressed in front of the country…
While I do feel O’Donnell was a bit hard on her, I found that she was clueless. In fact, she stated what a difficult time she was having with medical care issues, but she basically wanted to suffer through it. What if she were to have something more serious that would bankrupt her family? Medical costs are too high to have them shared among people unfortunately. She also seemed fake when she said that–like she had to say that in good grace. She seemed like someone who was upset by something, but she did not really understand what upset her, so she took an issue she did not really understand at all.
I seldom respond to blog posts because they are largely a waste of valuable time, not to mention that they are read by relatively few people. But the classlessness of the attacks on Katy Abram by the leftists on this thread are pretty dispicable… uncalled for, immature, and beyond the pale. I started to write a long, meticulously crafted response but then decided…why waste my time? Trying to use facts, history, and logic to educate a leftist is like trying to walk on water. It’s almost impossible; I only know of two people who have ever done it…Jesus Christ & Barack H. Obama. And most leftists don’t even believe in the former anyway. So on second thought, I think it is better to let you immature, spiteful, hate-mongering ignoramuses continue to foam and froth in your own little world, where the light of truth and decency is not permitted to shine!
Bunch of idiots including whoever wrote this piece of crap! Well rant all u want the bill will still be passed hopefully end of the year and for those of you that wants freedom of speech and believes the govt will go into ur bank accounts because you’re an idiot to believe such stupid lies? Save ur money under your bed. Instead of reading the bill, you’re right here making a woman that knows nothing about her country a god. Shame on you idiots and fools! It’s been repeated 50 mill times keep your insurance and doctor no one is forcingit down your throat… Give your self high blood pressure over healthcare reform either ways Obama is not going back. The stupid fool “unconservative” or whatever nonsense u so called yourself what pg of the bill states “the govt will go into your account and withdraw money” let me see it. Ignorant fools! Whoever created this page is dumb anyways.
It is so easy to throw insults at people from behind a keyboard in the safety of your home.
I would like to commend Katy for having the courage to stand up for her beliefs. That is what our country is about isn’t it?
Maybe, Katy just didn’t think it was anyones business what there income is. We all know how you would persecute her if it was over $250k.
Maybe instead of sitting at your keyboard developing carpal tunnel you should get off your a## and put those big brains to good use helping to make this a better country instead of insulting someone who is trying to do just that.
I applaud you Katy for having the courage to put yourself out there knowing that you would become a target for liberals who think “conserative” is a bad word.
The only thing more shocking than the depth of ignorance Katy Abrams displayed on that “softball” interview is this opinion piece defending her. Where all the real Republicans? I hope that woman has her kids in a strong school district. She wouldn’t of been able to answer that either.
Nina, it’s on page 57, or just read this.
Sorry KATH – not the same person. Maybe Justin Quinn can confirm that for you.
Katy is entitled to her opinion. But if you are going to grandstand at a townhall meeting at least educate yourself, add something of substance to the discussion. Talking about the US turning into Russia is so far removed from reality that you have to wonder.
She doesn’t know if her family earns less than or more than 250K…that’s okay. But she didn’t care about 911: “I had other things going on….it wasn’t a priority in my life…maybe I’m just not that smart but it seems like we’ve kind of been at war since then….maybe even before I don’t know…” Are you kidding me ?! When 911 happened I so pissed off. I was baying for blood.
Don’t make excuses for her. What happened to thoughtful conservatives ? William Buckley would be turning in his grave listening to these people.
Our Long National Nightmare Is BACK …
Hey your comment about how the leftists probably don’t believe in Christ anyway…I’m not a bible expert myself like you appear to be, but I don’t remember where he preached “Every man for himself! And F** your neighbors if they need healthcare…” Funny, I’ll have to read the New Testament again…
True men of Christ throughout the ages have given their last loaf of bread to someone else, the clothes off their back and their last nickel as well as “turned their cheek” to their enemy. You on the right are just selfish, greedy bastards who aren’t willing to help your fellow man if it means ANY type of sacrifice on your part (although so far no one can really explain the sacrifice you are being asked to make here).
There is no question on which side of the debate Christ would be!
iDOknowPOLITICS!: Since you didn’t pick up what I was laying down in comment #104, it was sarcasm. The fact that you profess you have excellent knowledge of politics, coupled with the fact that you would rip on someone and call them names because you say you would have done things better, well, that just makes you egocentric in my book.
You said: “No one should confuse Katy’s willingness to spend her 15 minutes of fame on TV confronting Senator Specter and going on news programs to talk (at some excruciating length) about something about which she has no clue…with having guts!” You know what I see, I see you typing behind your computer and I see her going to a townhall meeting and voicing her opinion. Uh, I’d say she has a little more guts than you. She asked a question and was shoved into the national spot light but yet – according to you, she should have been prepared for that – do you have a magic 8 ball that said that was going to happen? Because man, oh, man…I got to get me one of those!!
“FOLLOW POLITICS and am aware of what is going on and have read all the information available (from non-partisan sources) and thus I would KNOW what to talk about and how to articulate my thoughts and beliefs.” There you go AGAIN, the magic 8 ball must work for you. Have you been on national TV before? Do you have ANY idea what it is like to have the whole country listening to you and hoping you say something stupid so they can rip you apart? I’m going to guess not. See, you can sit here and type out your opinion and say “I would say this or that” or “I would be much more prepared” and say how you are going to react to a situation that you have NEVER been in.
Obviously you think so highly about yourself that you feel validated enough to call someone names (or you just really low self-esteem and calling other people names makes you feel better). Unfortunately, I just can’t bring myself to give a crap about someone and their opinion who critizes Katy for not know something, yet they have NEVER had a real conversation with Katy. In fact the only thing they have seen is a nervous stay-at-home-mom thrust into the national spotlight and expected to live up to some egocentric jerk’s opinion.
Let’s talk about guts…she went on a liberal news show where she knew the interviewer’s job was to make a fool out of her and ruin any credibility she may have. (However, had she not gone she’d get ripped on for that too.) Yet, she went anyway, knowing people like YOU are out there…knowing that no matter WHAT she said or DIDN’T say she was going to get hammered on for not know enough about this or that – and she went anyway. I think you may want to do a gut check. I see you behind your computer spewing your opinions in a safe setting, I see her out there putting herself on the line regardless of whether she was ready or not.
She wasn’t talking about 9/11 when she said that, DR. She was referring to politics in general. I spoke with her after the O’Donnell interview and she told me that, like most Americans, she was horrified by 9/11 and very concerned about the wars. She wasn’t politically ACTIVE though until recently. That doesn’t mean she wasn’t interested in politics. If O’Donnell hadn’t kept interrupting her, perhaps she could have explained herself further, but of course TV newspeople have to cut off their guests to make their political points.
As for William F. Buckley Jr., I believe he would be energized by what’s going on in America today. I think he’d be excited to see how many people are willing to become engaged politically even if (as it is in this case) at great personal risk to their own peace of mind.
Yeah, I don’t think Christ would approve of people hurling insults at people by calling them “selfish, greedy bastards” or “morons” or “idiots” or other names to profane to repeat. Go ahead, read the New Testament again. Maybe you’ll learn to stick to the issues rather than castigating those with whom you disagree.
Hey Bambi let me show you something you OBVIOUSLY didn’t get to see…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-bY92mcOdk&feature=player_embedded
I’m sure since getting election he has stopped being a proponent for a single pay system because 2003 was SO long ago. And I am also sure that he no longer wants to phase out employer based health care plans. I bet that was a campaign ploy.
Yeah, Katy got the year wrong when O’donnell tried to call her a liar. That is some class for you!
yeah Buckley would be impressed by misinformed half-baked beliefs.
He would be impressed by an energized populace willing to stand up for their conservative beliefs. He undoubtedly would be appalled by the rancor from the left, though, and from comments like yours.
Sheesh, people. Wake up!
This is a normal everyday woman. Whether you agree with her or not, she has spoken aloud the thoughts and beliefs of millions and millions of United States citizens. Think about that before you write her off.
You are mindlessly attacking one woman, because she has sense enough to distrust the government and say so publicly.
How do you think this nation was founded? On a foundation of healthy distrust of government.
Those of you who blindly trust the government to babysit you and provide for your needs and wants and to always do the right thing – you’re just not good Americans.
This is supposed to be government BY, FOR, and OF the people. Guess what? Katy is one of the people!
She is trying to do her part in governing, rather than trusting to professional politicians to do the job that was given to THE PEOPLE by the founding fathers.
Give her a break. Take a breath and take an honest look at things before you knee-jerk yourself into yet another left-to-right insult-fest.
Katy, thank you for standing up for Americans against Obamacare. We need health care reform, but unfortunately Obama’s plan is severely flawed. And you were right when you said that Obama has stated that he wants a single payer system. You are setting a wonderful example for kids and for the rest of us who are accustomed to sitting on the sidelines.
Katy: You’re a Great American! This old ‘constitutional traditionalist’ salutes you. If more of this country’s young people had a clue about the history of the Republic, and what the Founders went through to ‘give us’ the Bill of Rights and the liberty that results from them — we wouldn’t be ’swirling around’ the ‘toilet bowl’ headed for the ’sewer’! God Bless this once great country.
Katy is Joe the Plumber. Katy is Bernadette Repisky. We are Americans. We are horrified at what is happening to this country under this most radical and liberal president. We are scared to death (and perhaps literally, if Obamacare takes place) that the government will run my health care. As Reagan said, “When the government sys “I’m here to help,” run the other way.” I’m horrified at the state-run mainstream media and their portrayal of Tea Party Patriots and Town Hall citizens who are speaking out. Is this America?!!! George Orewll predicted a Big Brother society — and he was only about 25 years off in his book “1984.” BHO promised radical change — and here comes socialism in all its ugliness. Their taunts and threats will not shut me up. The “Stimulus”/Pork bill, the government involvement with banks and cars, the cap and tax bill, the Czars, the snitches sending e-mails to flag@whitehouse.gov. It’s insane. Yes, people are angry. This great country, made that way by free-market capitalism, democracy and Christian-Juedo principles, is being usurped. My president would NEVR BOW to a Muslim Saudi king or any head of state. I pray every day that we can survive 4 more years. The Conservative Sleeping Giant has woken up – now liberals must open their eyes also!!!!
The bottom line is that there are those who continue to scream about some fantasy based dystrophic, socialist world. This “fringe” needs to be removed from the discussion, so there is room for a more multi faceted discussion. Per the MSNBC interview she described her current coverage, which in included a high deductable. I would think that her focus should be directed on fixing the current coverage allotted to small businesses, not on “wild” fringe ideas.
Katy, your courage should be an inspiration to all who care about “democracy” and “Truth”. I also have always been asleep for many years. My wife and I have begun attending town meetings also. When asked where I was during the Bush administration… I was still asleep, but I’m awake now! Good going!
KP, your video clip appears to be strategically cut, and really doesn’t say much since the WHOLE interviews were not in the clip.
usconservatives, Katy did say she was never interested in politics per the clip of her speaking to Specter. Perhaps, that was in the script she was holding during her little speech. She also said she really did care about politics in her interview on Hard Ball.
Poor Katy, appears to be repeating everything she hears from her spouse and surrounding conservatives. It just seems that she was angry about what she HEARD and not about anything she’s read or researched.
Would anybody in their right mind really want to keep a health plan that has a $5000+ deductible? Just curiously.
I found it interesting how Katy admitted to Lawrence O’Donnell that she had no idea how much taxes she paid because she lets her husband take care of that. She has to sign the forms. That means she signs legal documents without knowing what’s on them. Yet another thing that Katy can’t be bothered to know about or understand. Her feminine reticence will not help her during the audit if her husband is pulling shenanigans with their money. I would love to see an interviewer ask her what she thinks about the subprime mortgage problem because I’m sure she’ll answer like a typical conservative: Those people should have known better than to get into those mortgages! I’m sure she’ll say something like that.
I’d like to point out that Katy’s comment that she “didn’t care” about 9/11 is being taken out of context. She was generally discussing politics and events, and made a general comment that back 7 or 8 years ago, she just didn’t care about getting involved or paying attention to politics. She did not refer specifically to 9/11 or the wars. She did, however, downplay the wars by saying (laughably she didn’t think much of them because we were seemingly always at war or involved in conflict. She is another American with no clue about policies or positions, but when he as-unintelligent and hateful friends and family take a position, she must follow, even though she has not a clue about which she speaks. BUT – she did NOT say she didn’t care about 9/11, and to accuse he of doing so costs credibility when the fact that she is clueless is pointed out.
I really don’t care for people attacking this woman because of her opinions (misinformed as they are). She does have a right to speak her mind.
Ladies, I know she is a woman, and we women like to stick together; however, before you agree/back up anybody, please read/research all facts of the issue so you don’t look like/sound clueless. Please, women are not always taken seriously. Something like this takes away our credibility.
Katy, please, in the future do your research first. You don’t always have to listen to or agree with the husband. He will still support you and the kids. For the record, Katy, I don’t want to go back to pre-women’s suffrage. I like to vote!
Thank you Katy for standing up and asking your question. I cheered as I watched you confront Spector on TV. I am so sorry that the left is attacking you like they are; they are afraid, because you speak the truth. I heard your interview with Glenn this morning and I was crying. I am praying for you and your family; hang in there! We are winning this war…let them continue to attack us. We are Americans, we are republicans, democrats and independents who are against this bill; they can call us names and belittle us, but it is going to back-fire big time.
I would like to thank Katy for standing up to the liberals that have their heads so far up Obamas’ anus they can’t see straight.As a Navy veteran I can say for certain that if our government attempts to take over health care(if any 1/2 wit liberal would take time to read the bill they would see the proof)we will see quality decrease,waiting time increase and alot of unhappy campers.
Leb Resident, Rubybay and everyone else concered about her health plan & financial situation: Are you really qualified to say what kind of coverage is right or wrong for their family? Really? Seriously, who are you? A friend, a family member? You obviously aren’t a concerned citizen trying to do what is right. You have no clue what is best for their family because – I know this is shocking – but you don’t have a freakin CLUE about their life. You take a 7 minute clip where she is sitting in the hot seat and then proceed to try and assume you know what is best for her and her family. She was asked some VERY personal questions about her financial situation and didn’t answer them regardless whether she knew anything or not. What I find SO OUTRAGOUS is that you all seem OK with that, why? Because it fits your agenda – you would so rather tear her down that you will look passed the fact that her financial situation is NOT the country or YOUR business. She isn’t a political figure, she is a private CITIZEN.
Dear Kath:
You shouldn’t get your feelings so hurt by someone (that would be me) pointing out the jaw-dropping ignorance of someone else (that would be Katy) who has chosen to go forth in public (locally and nationally) and “speak out” against something about which she clearly has, let’s face it, NO understanding.
The fact that Katy appears to be an intellectual dwarf is not my fault. Your assertion that I have to have a conversation with someone in order to criticize them is ridiculous! You are
trashing Obama and I would bet my eyes you have never had a conversation with him. Try to remain realistic honey. Although…you are on the side of people who protest holding signs that threaten the President’s life (”Death to Obama” Hagerstown MD Town Hall). So I’m guessing that being realistic is too much to hope for.
It’s interesting how you label everyone that has a differing and more informed opinion as “egotistical”. The assumption that someone who is informed and criticizes someone else is suffering from low self-esteem is overly simplistic psychology.
Normally I wouldn’t even respond to a post that has so many grammar, spelling, and sentence structure challenges, but I thought it would be fun. I was right! Take care.
Rubybay…here knock yourself out. Short or long cut up interview or not…it says the same.
SEIU Health Care Forum on 3/24/07
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtbfPOgKf2g
The speech (Justin provided the link above but here..) from the AFL-CIO in 2003
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE
I think in an investigation this would be a good clue of intent.
“iDOknowPOLITICS:” You may know politics, but you certainly don’t know humility and grace. I read nothing in the comments you refer to that showed “feelings that are hurt.” Rather, a person was trying to address your arrogance and condescending words. I mean, come on… Katy is an “intellectual dwarf?” Where do you even get off on this?? You don’t even know her, and I agree thaty you sound like some jealous person. Or some spurrned ex-lover or something. You must be one of Obama’s cult followers who just exist to bash others who dare to criticize anything this evil man does or says.
Oh, I just read another one of your arrogant, rude, pompous posts calling Katy an “idiot.” No, it is you who is an idiot. And I think most people who might read this can clearly see that. You come here just to bash this woman, someone who simply gave her views and opinions. I guess the millions who agree with her and oppose both Obamamessiah and his health care plan are also “idiots.” Well, you sit there and bash away. Have fun. Meanwhile,the debt in this nation is skyrocketing and our freedoms are waning. And you sit on your butt on the internet anonymously bashing a stranger who you don’t even know (unless I am right that you are a spurrned lover, which is what you act like). You really need to get your “facts” straight on the health care plan, and you really ought to do yourself a favor and break free from the Obama cult you are obviously a member of.
The reason Katy has been thrown into the public spotlight is because of her catchy phrase. When she was able to ask her question and then responded, “you’ve awakened a sleeping tiger.” That is the reason her name is mentioned in every entry. It is not because someone hates her. There are many people who have said the same type of thing, but the news media decided when Katy spoke she said something that the average person could relate to. I don’t hate Katy. I think that she is very misinformed, but millions of people are. She is not only misinformed about health care, but according to the interview last night she is misinformed or maybe not informed about alot of things. (Her income; cheaper insurance; wars; 9/11; Social Security; medicare/medicad; you know things) I would encourage everyone who realizes the importance of having health care for every American to find someone like Katy and help that person. Yes, you can go to the emergency room for care. Yes, they have to care for you even if you are not able to pay. This is important, even if you do not have insurance, even if you can not pay they will still bill you and then contact a collection agency. Your credit will still be ruined, and it will still be your bill. I don’t believe the government is proposing a bill in which health care is totally free. You can still keep your insurance if you are happy with it, but if you are not or if you do not have insurance you can purchase insurance through the government. It will cost you something. I have heard that if your income is low that vouchers are possible to help you pay the cost. No one is saying that everyone is getting free insurance and then you must do what the government tells you to do because they own you now. The worse 4 letter word I can think of at this time is FEAR. If the Republican party can make you feel fearful then they have won. The only thing to fear is fear itself. When you arm yourself with truth and knowledge then and only then will you be truly free.
I have seen many of the townhall meetings taking place, via youtube videos. So many people are so outrages. Katy was just one of them. It honestly makes me more proud to be an American than I have felt in a long time. Obama’s election was so depressing and sad because so many people voted for him for the wrong reasons- they voted for him simply because he was black or cool or black & cool. Because he promised them umpteen things (many of them still believe these promises), he used these catchy chant phrases (”yes, we can”), he played on people’s fears (he’s still doing that), and so many other reasons that had nothing to do with his leadership abilities and his policies, both of which STINK! So, it is good to now see people finally getting angry and speaking up rather than just being passive as this nation gets more and more destroyed by liberals. I hope this is just the beginning of conservatives speaking out against this runaway liberalism. Katy, and all the others who’ve spoken out at townhall meetings (in the face of politicians who don’t even listen anyways) make me proud to be an AMERICAN.
Katy is an inspiration and I blogged about her on my conservative Shenandoah Valley, Virginia, SWAC Girl blog:
http://swacgirl.blogspot.com/2009/08/katy-abram-new-voice-of-silent-majority.html
Thank you for your post about this courageous young lady. She’s the new voice for the Silent Majority.
~Lynn Mitchell
Ramona, Actually, the problem is that many of us have become INFORMED, not misinformed. Have you actually read the bill? Are you seriously okay with the things in it? I mean, you do realize don’t you, that if it passes and we have this healthcare, that you will have very long waits to see doctors, your care will not be as high quality, and eventually, this plan will wipe out private insurances. The bill even says that if you have a private insurance and it changes in ANY minor way, you HAVE to get the govt. plan. That, to me, is sickening… this is one of the reason conservatives are likening it to Nazism. The govt. is FORCING us towards this plan. And you are right, the govt. plan will not be “free” because our TAXES will be paying for it. And since it is going to cost BILLIONS, and since we are already TRILLIONS in debt, I think it’s safe to say that our taxes are definitely going to rise. And no, fear is not the only thing to fear. Ignorance should also be feared, and your comments sound as if you are very ignorant of many of the FACTS of this bill. Go read it. Read it in its entirety. Go do some research about Canada’s health care. Go watch the videos of Daniel Hanlen and see what he has to say about how CRAZY America is to want this and how the universal health care in the U.K. only was implemented because they were in war time, but once they implemented it, there was no turning back, and YES, they do have long waits and poor care. Why do you think all these people from other nations come to America for better and faster care? Well, if Obama gets his way, you can kiss that goodbye. Maybe not right away if you have private insurance, but once your employer realizes the govt. plan is cheaper, kiss it goodbye. And once your private ins. changes and you are forced to go govt., kiss it goodbye. If I were you, I would read this plan with a fine-tooth comb and understand that Obama is manipulating you and lying to you. He even said before he ran for Pres. that he was in favor of a single-payer system. You’ve fallen hard for Obama, and you are unable to see that he lies and manipulates, and for that, I feel sorry for you and frightened because there are so many others like you who really believe that this man has our best interests in mind. You know what he has in mind? Votes. And he will say what he does in order to have an image and persona that people will vote for. But Americans are now seeing through it and recognizing his lies. He’s saying things like how doctors will take out a kid’s tonsils in order to get insurance money, or amputate a diabetic’s leg in order to get ins. money!!! He’s nuts, and once you can see that and see the power trip he’s on, the better off you’ll be. Well, you might not be better off… once you have universal health care, higher taxes, your nation is buried under trillions of debts, and your freedoms are being taken away…. you probably won’t be better off, but you’ll be wiser. And I will blame you and all the idiots who voted for Obama for the mess our nation is in… a FAR GREATER mess than it ever was under Bush.
Obamas Job approval is now at 47% he started out with record job approval ratings and is now lower than Bush was at the same time in his first term. That should say enough. The dems did every thing in their power to destroy Bush from the second he took office, filibustered every supreme court justice and told us it was their right to do so. Now if any one questions this administration, and this congress that iss 100% controlled by one party, we are labeled racist, and un american. The federal Government sucked @ss under the last administration and congress, and is still does under this administration and congress. Obama depleted the treasury and sent it where, to huge multi national corporations huge auto companies, theres no difference. Hats off to Katy and shame on the liberal hate squads.
SWAC GIRL, Read your blog. Great comments. It’s interesting… everytime some young, attractive conservative female dares to speak out against “the One” (Obama)… like Palin, Carrie Prejean, Liz Cheney, and now this ordinary citizen, Katy… the liberals are so utterly vicious and hateful and in attack mode. You’ve really got to wonder what is psychologically going on. Are they just women haters? They do it to the mean too (Joe the Plumber) but it doesn’t seem to the same extent. They just HATE, HATE, HATE any conservative person getting the spotlight or influencing others. They want their free speech, but don’t want conservatives to have it, esp. conservative women. It’s pretty scary and pathetic.
There was nothing catchy or strong about Katy’s performance. In fact it was very sad, sad that someone has been brainwashed by the likes of G Beck and other hate mongers. It is time for the American conservative movement to move back to the ideals of Goldwater. You can continue with the status quo which enviably leads to increased insurance premiums and the continuation of defensive medicine or you can offer some alternatives to the current medical system. Screaming about a socialist nation is not the answer. As the host of hardball correctly pointed out, there are some social based programs that do provide valued benefits…i.e. Medicare and social security. The main concern should be the fiscal solvency of these programs. I do think there needs to be a healthcare debate that includes coverage for uninsured children under the age of 18, a clause in all health insurance that ensures coverage with a preexisting condition and across the board tort reform measure.
It is also sad that some of you are also hiding the true fact that you so anti-obama ..He is black and you cannot handle diversity and certainly cannot handle change!!! He is your president, and 8 months he has hit a touch point issue. I am not surprised by the backlash, people are afraid of change and after suffering through 8 years of the bush regime; any small movement forward is monementous task. You claim he is bankrupting the country, well you can thank you former president for the getting the ball rolling on this task. Two needless wars, thousands of soldiers killed, Religion being shoved down our throats, a deep recession, and introduction of “Big Brother” into our personal lives.
US Conservative – Rancor ? You mean the stuff coming out of the town hall meetings ? Buckley would be appalled at what passes for conservatism today. Nice chatting with you.
Dee Dee I only hope the republicans continue to prop Palin and Prejean as role models, because Saturday Night Live has never been better…Instead of backwards role models the movement should look more toward progressive conservative role models like Meghan Mccain and Dana Loesch
Mr. or Ms. Obama Lies, I am really not seeing where you would be forced to change to the governments insurance if your insurance changed any. Maybe you could provide me with the section number so I could see it for myself. Trust me when I tell you that you do not need to feel sorry for me. I am very well informed, I am capable of reading and making decisions for myself. I do understand the situation that our country is in and I do have concern. I believe that our President is very capable of leading. He is a well-educated man, that seems to be concerned for the well-being of all Americans. Not just for the wealthy, but even the poor. He understands hard times, and understands that sometimes people just need a break. Instead of hating him for giving people hope (hope is such an awful thing to have) why don’t you give him a chance. From January to August is not much of a chance. Some of us gave your man 8 years.
One other thing before I go, I wanted to give you the name of the most liberal man that ever walked so you can go and have a few words with him. Jesus.
(152) iDOknowPOLITICS! says:
Dear Kath:
iDOknowPOLITICS! – now THAT hurts my feelings…you attempt to make me feel bad and then get my name wrong! Duuudddeee!
“Normally I wouldn’t even respond to a post that has so many grammar, spelling, and sentence structure challenges,” – Was this suppose to insult me? Seriously? Again with the ego. Besides, you are preaching to the choir on that one.
“The assumption that someone who is informed and criticizes someone else is suffering from low self-esteem is overly simplistic psychology.” Maybe, but it doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen.
“Although…you are on the side of people who protest holding signs that threaten the President’s life (”Death to Obama” Hagerstown MD Town Hall).” Nice try. See, I can assume that since you like Obama you hated George Bush, I can lump you in with the people that displayed their own signs of his head cut off…or signs saying “BUSH: WANTED, DEAD OR ALIVE,” read the placard, which had an X over the word “ALIVE.” But I know what happens when someone assumes.
“Trashing Obama…” please that is so weak. You saw Katy on the news how many times? Obama…holy crap…when is he NOT on the news and he wrote a book to boot! Besides, trashing Obama might be a little strong for what I was saying above. At least I can say I never called him names.
Katy Abrams the Weeping Bafoon is part of Glenn Becks 9/12 project “We Are the People” who want to secede from the U.S. She lied about her political ties and has been a member since 2/2009.
You bunch of panty waste liberals are the real racist, the real pigs, the real whoremongers, the real homophobics, the real baby killers, the real problem in this country. We The People have had enough of this crap in 8 months. Prerare to defend yourselves.
Leb:
“It is also sad that some of you are also hiding the true fact that you so anti-obama ..He is black and you cannot handle diversity and certainly cannot handle change!!!”
Is this your theory? Can you show me some proof? You have to have some more evidence other than citizens are disagreeing with their President. If that is the case all those black people that disagreed with Bush MUST have been racist too.
Wow! KP…you totally got me on that name thing!
You should go on Hannity and Beck and crow about it Katy Abram style!
And getting your name wrong is not the same as having substandard writing and spelling skills. I mean, after all, when your big comeback is, “I see you typing behind your computer” (most people would call it typing AT your computer, but whatever) you really ought to be able to actually type (as in write properly). You know, blogs are all about writing.
I’m bored with this now. Later Duuuudddee! (whatever THAT word means)
Michael R. Pathetic. That’s all.
And it’s panty WAIST Michael R! People who can’t read/write in glass houses shouldn’t get on the Internet and write stuff.
Hilarious!!!!
Real racists (which these anti-healthcare, anti- Obama, and “Hooray for Katy” folks are) always do one of 2 things:
1. “Prove” they aren’t racists by saying that they “have black friends” or “Have nothing against black people”.
2. Ask observers of their racism to “prove” the racism with some set of facts.
THE FACTS ARE EVIDENT! Hence, the accusation.
If they’re so evident, please tell me what they are. So far you haven’t proven your point, IDOknow…
KP sometimes you have to think for yourself…which means not relying on propaganda videos, so called literal religious interpretation, or blow hard radio hosts. Who cares if she was a novice to the national scene, she made a point of throwing herself into the spotlight. If she can’t take the heat then she needs to get out of the kitchen. Of course she will need to ask her husbands permission before she leaves the kitchen. She is no better than any other fly by night celebrity; she wanted her five minutes of fame. I will not praise her or say she has the guts to stand up for her beliefs.Why?? because standing up for your personal beliefs means understanding what your beliefs are and articulating these points.
Very nice article. I think it is horrible how this poor woman was attacked. It could have been any one of us who have been awakened in her position. Again GOVERNMENT officials, THE SLEEPING GIANT HAS AWAKENED AND WE ARE COMING AFTER YOU TO FORCE YOU TO FOLLOW OUR CONSTITUTION!!! As for you,Griff, You are ignorant about the Constitution. I challenge you to show me HOW providing health care for all is provided in the Constitution. It is NOT giving us freedom and liberty by forcing us into some govt. run health care. You need to get a little pocket Constitution at http://www.heritagefoundation.org. READ IT!
For you libs who think Katy is not smart, maybe you have a point. She said she voted for Bill Clinton twice.
For all you people playing the race card, the favorite trick of libs, I’m sure you all think Clarence Thomas is one great black man!
Leb – It is funny that you talk about people thinking of themselves but yet the of the things you are repeating is what people on the left are dishing out. Anyone that opposes Obama MUST be racist. Was that your original thought?
Katy voiced her opinion in a townhall – just like you are doing on this board. She is entitled to that opinon just as you are. Whether you like the opinion or not and whether you think her delivery was adequate or not, she said it and she backed it up. Regardless of nerves getting the better of her she didn’t shy away.
iDOknowPOLITICS! it is sad that all you have is personal attacks. But why should I expect anything less.
Good Work, Katy! You’ve proven how the incurious and uninformed are being led by the republican movement against improving healthcare int he U.S. You don’t bother to inform yourself or do any homework at all. You’ve embarrassed yourself. I feel sorry for you for being attacked. But I also feel much more sorry for my country while uninformed, clueless people like you are helping to keep us all in the dark. You should have at least read up on the facts before YOU put yourself out there. You’re not brave – you’re stupid.
I believe the issue here is not that Katy Abram stated her opinion. The key issue is how she arrived at that opinion.
For many folks, 9-11 was significant enough to make those not interested in politics begin to be so, and grow their ideas organically, being open minded by listening to multiple news sources (no one outlet- Fox, CNN, MSNBC, The National Review, or The Nation is completely neutral–so no one outlet should be trusted completely without further checking of facts, and thoughtfully weighing each situation to get a big picture from which to arrive at an opinion).
Other folks are drawn to one source of news input and begin to identify with a “cult of personality” of an individual host — Glenn Beck (and his 9-12 group, which K.A. is a member of, in spite of the fact she represented herself as not being connected to a group of this kind- I suppose she was untruthful on that point in the Hardball interview as, once again, this admission would have not served her point), or Rush Limbaugh. Beck and Limbaugh are judged on job performance by ratings. In a quest to get ratings each shoots for being able to say the most outlandish things as it has been shown the method works. These gentlemen have essentially taken a page from Howard Stern’s career playbook, and applied it to their individual outlets corporate leanings (Fox or Clear Channel). It’s just the radio/TV business, after all. Stern has his wack pack, Beck has his 9-12 followers, and Rush has his dittoheads, each identifying with the host’s personality, not necessarily thinking that what the host proposes in a given situation is not always in someone’s best interest. Each of these groups are esaily manipulated. It does deliver ratings, though. This method of formulating opinions tends to rely on heavily scripted thought such as provided by ResistNet.com. (if you even know that URL, you know who you are). Scripted action does not equal individual thought.
As Americans (Patriot seems to have been another co-opted term to create devision) on both sides of an issue we must get used to questioning our sources, and checking our facts before we speak. There is nothing wrong with ResistNet as one source, but we need to have a check and balance on that by using something like FactCheck.org. Then and only then can we have a respectful interchange.
Hello-
I found this piece after doing a google search for Katy Abram after seeing her Hardball interview. I wanted to see how on earth anyone could defend her performance. I guess being divorced from reality helps. She’s “articulate” and “informed”? Really? Any competent high school student should be able to discuss not only New Deal programs like Social Security, but also the Supreme Court’s initial responses to them. Someone who’s college educated should be able to discuss not only Great Society programs like Medicaid and Medicare, but also Nixon and Reagan’s responses to them. It’s a little strange to invoke the Founding Fathers while remaining blissfully ignorant of the events in the two centuries following them.
I have pity for anyone who would look so deer in the headlights discussing these issues, but we all get in over our heads pretty easily. Part of becoming an adult involves recognizing the limits of your abilities, and this process can be difficult at the tender age of 35. Of course we can see flaws in others more easily than in ourselves, but apparently even an award-winning journalist can think she did “a great job.” To say she can serve as an “inspiration” is an analysis reserved for the thoroughly confused.
Wilson (73) may not have been original, but that doesn’t make him wrong. Funny that you’d respond to the lack of originality rather than the substance of the comment. What was that about attacking the messenger?
KP not sure where you get the idea that I am a liberal…. I am a registered Independent. I guess it is because I do not support the anti-healthcare agenda and I do not believe in the socialism scare. I think you miss the point that what Katy stated at the town hall was not an opinion but an artificial statement. She did not have an opinion. She obviously has no problem agreeing to appear on talk shows after her so-called “opinion.” In fact, she has no problem helping Beck push the agenda. Oh, wait is he not the man who stated, “President Obama is a “racist,” that he has a “deep-seated hatred for white people,”” There is a psychological term for this kind of unhinged behavior, and it is called “projection.” KP You should l note that I said “some” people are hiding behind their fear of race, not all. I think GOP racism and race baiting will consign the party to a long time in the political minority.
G Beck’s Lebanon “Plant”
http://lebanonpa912project.ning.com /…
I know the president is open to ridicule, this is why America is great country. “Bush is a Nazi, Obama Nazi etc etc.”but it is unfortunate that there are those on both sides of the argument that clearly cannot except change whether it is change in race, religion or policy.
The Founding Fathers never envisioned 18-wheel tractor trailers or automobiles that could go 60 miles per hour. Is George Washington rolling in his grave because we put so much public money into the federal highway system?
Leb…”was not an opinion but an artificial statement. She did not have an opinion.” I think you need to go read the definition of opinion then. Because by the definition of the word, she does indeed have an opinion. What I find disconcerning is that you are trying to take it away by calling it something else. Why? Because you don’t believe the same thing she does?
G Beck’s Lebanon “Plant” – One word: Conjecture
I have no doubt there are people that are still truly racist in America. Unfortunate, but true. However, I also truly believe there are A LOT more people that are not racist but are called racist simply because they disagree with someone that doesn’t have the same skin color.
“Deejay”– you are a liar, just like Obmama. You didn’t just “find” this website. I have been reading comments here and on Justin’s other blogs, and you are obviously the troll who posts tons and TONS of posts, basically all saying the same thing (which is why you are so recognizable). You have posted many, many comments in here, under all sorts of different names. You really think all these liberals are going to come to this blog and talk about waht an idiot Katy is? Nope. It’s the same person, saying the same stuff over and over. And YOU are that person… or “troll.” What a waste of life to sit on the internet trolling these blogs so that you can just blab your liberal cr*p. Get a life and grow up. You must be one heck of a lonely, pathetic individual. I’d feel sorry for you if you weren’t such an arrogant, moronic loser.
Don’t be fooled Justin or anyone else. There is a TROLL who keeps posting here the same cr*p about what an “idiot” Katy is. This person is nothing but a pathetic loser to sit here and day and night post these comments. He/she has used many names: LebResident/Deejay/Tim/IDoKnowPolitics/
You can totally tell it’s the same person because he/she is like a broken record: Katy is an “idiot,” she just wants fame, she must watch stupid conservative cable news shows, and how on earth anyone can think Katy did a good job is just astounding! He/she speaks with a rabid, foaming at the mouth, bashing Katy up and down like there’s no tomorrow (it’s like he/she’s jealous or vindictive or some twisted thing like that), his/her face is red, steam coming out of the ears, reading everyone’s positive comments and then typing like mad on his computer, thinking up different names so he can dupe peoople into believing that there are all these liberals who all think the same thing. Ultimately, he’s a loser, and wow, what a waste of life.
Katy, YOU ROCK!!!!! All these AWESOME men and women speaking up at town hall meetings ROCK!!! Make sure you all check out the TX senator (female, don’t know her name) who talks on her cell phone as a young, female cancer patient asks a question. OMG!!!! These lib politicians are nothing but a bucnch of arrogant a*sh*les!!!! I hope there is a Revolution in this country. It’s time we shut people up, like “IDoKnowPolitics.” These people are arrogant, egotistical and think that they own this nation. We don’t have to resort to violence or to the tactics they used with Bush, but we can make our voices heard and we can get angry and not back down. I am sick and tired and FED UP with the liberals in this nation and what they are doing to it. They are IDIOTS and I absolutely cannot stand Obama either!!!!!! But, it’s no surprise that idiotic liberal voters and politicians revere an idiotic liberal President. Like minds think alike. I hope there are more and more Katy’s who speak up at these meetings and continue to speak when they are done. We will not be silenced!!!!!!!!!!
Loved your Update #3– it’s unbelievable how the liberals act. During Bush’s Presidency, they treated him and his supporters in FAR MORE horrible ways that Obama has been treated. Yet, that was okay. They are hypocrites. They are for free speech only when it’s them doing the speaking. Against free speech when it comes to people like Katy or people like Rush Limbaugh, Fox News, Sarah Palin, Carrie Prejean, Joe the Plumber, Liz Cheney, Michelle Malkin, Glen Beck, and the list goes on. Look at what they do to these people. Just completely slander them and their families, try to dig up dirt on them, and try to completely destroy them. They are mean, mean people. I never realized it until Obama was elected. But reading the comments here from those who are bashing Katy only proves it. They are very mean, cold-hearted, and arrogant. It’s like their hearts are just completely cold and selfish. I think a lot of them are narcissists. They view themselves as the only ones who are ever right. And they want government to nanny them. They despise hard working, capable, intelligent individuals because it only sheds a light on how sad it is that they depend and rely so much on government rather than their own hard work and individualism. I can’t imagine living that way.
I wish I had the intelligence and guts to ask such a question at a town hall meeting (as if the cowards in Michigan would ever hold one). And Katy, you are right. The country is being dismanteled, and for what? For whom? That is my worry, who is the puppeteer pulling the strings by this takeover? I am a registered democrat, never voted any other way, but I am afraid, for my country, for myself and for my family.
KP.Okay Glen Becks opinion!!
Rob’s wife…I think you have mistaken me for someone else!! I will continue to post until obama makez the US a socilist regime. Then we do not have to think!! and we can wear matching outfits, drive volgas and wait in line for our bread ticket..Ha …Brittney I would really like to know what violence you speak of? (used against bush) and a revolution to shut people up..is this not contrary to the rights of every US citizen. Ah the liberals, maybe we should burn them at the stake!!!with the non christian folk, homosexuals and those who do not own guns. Viva La Revolucion!
“They view themselves as the only ones who are ever right. And they want government to nanny them. They despise hard working, capable, intelligent individuals because it only sheds a light on how sad it is that they depend and rely so much on government rather than their own hard work and individualism. I can’t imagine living that way.”
You are so right have you ever noticed that liberals just around smoke pot and sing judy collins songs..and they smell.
Go Katy! This family is right there with you and keeping you and yours in our prayers. Don’t listen to the garbage and don’t worry they will not put this giant back to sleep.
re: Rob’s wife (187) Thank you for your thoughts. I very much enjoy living in the reality-based community. Do come by and visit sometime.
Katy, this family here is also right there with you and keeping you in prayers. You do not deserve the harrassment that has come your way. It happens though to almost every conservative woman it seems. I remember Carrie Prejean and how dispicable they treated her, all because she spoke her mind.
I think that the “left” does this partly so that others will be afraid of speaking out. We see what has happened to you and Prejean, and Sarah Palin, and others, and they make “examples” of you, and them, with the hopes that other conservatives, esp. the women (because they believe all African-Americans and women are liberal, which is completely false), will be silenced out of intimidation and fear of it happening to them, too. I honestly believe that.
And of course, they slander you because they think by doing so, they will negate your comments. But your comments were great! I loved what you said. And like this other person said, don’t listen to the garbage. There are a lot of people who feel the way you do and are standing with you!!
We know you didn’t ask to be harrassed, nor did you expect it. It’s amazing what the Left will stoop to. They are so concerned about their agenda that they don’t care about who they destroy, as long as they destroy them in order to silence the opposing views and voices.
I have prayed for national healthcare all my adult life, as I have seen what its like for people with no insurance and people who have been trapped in dead end jobs because of insurance.
I also believe that the close to anarchic performances at the town hall meetings has secretly been sponsored by the insurance company and of course, their paid for slave, the GOP.
What I do NOT like about the bill is what I consider the dishonest way that it has been presented and the emphasis on denial of care to seniors and the severely disabled. Pres. Obama talks about all the waste with Medicare Advantage, but has routinely failed to mention that Medicare Advantage is, in 29 states, often the ONLY way disabled recipients of Medicare can close some of the huge coverage gaps in Medicare. There is nothing in federal law that requires an insurer to sell a Medigap policy to a Medicare recipient under 65 (ie the severely disabled). That is dishonest – and any final bill should simply require any insurer to cover anyone who applies, with rate caps and some form of subsidy to a private insurer for a high risk insured. That would cost the government a minimal amount of money compared to the public option.
Before deregulation, telephone service was closely monitored by Public Utility Commissions, and it worked very well. If we tightly regulate the insurance companies and expand Medicaid for those who cannot pay a premium, we would achieve the goal of universal high quality coverage at a fraction of the expense being considered now.
Katy Abram is as idiotic as Sarah Palin and lies just as much. First she just got into politics, her first tea party, yet promoted Hannitys book about and said how strong and active she has been in politics since 2006, then she has the nerve to go on national tv and not even know what the constitution is she is trying so hard to defend, or that SS and Medicaid are govt. programs. What a pathetic whiny moron, sorry, but she sounds like a wack job not even knowing what shes talking about, then lies, lies, talks to Glenn Beck like she doesn’t know who he is all the while supporting him and fighting for his cause. Liars, Hypocrites, and scared of the black man.
What kills me is what makes her think she is so superior, maybe its wackos like her that hurt America. Ugggggggg
I am VERY proud of Katy for speaking her mind and standing up for American freedoms. I hope more people are brave enough to do this so we do not loose any more freedoms. May God bless you Katy, stay strong, and keep up the good fight.
Wow, “Liberal Rants,” your name sure fits you because you certainly are ranting. Cool down and get a grip! Sounds like you are a really bitter, jealous, angry person!!
She’s “pathetic,” “moron,” she “lies,” and she “thinks she is superior??” Wow, you got all that from one interview?? I think your statement that she “thinks she is superior” is the clue to your inner anger and jealousy. You have a HUGE chip on your shoulder.
Katy is just a normal, average, conservative woman who spoke her mind. Who cares if she was not perfectly eloquent like Obamamessiah?! I could care less. I bet you think every conservative who speaks their mind, ESP. on t.v. thinks they are “superior” (like I said… CHIP ON THE SHOULDER).
I certainly hope you deal with your anger and bitterness before it eats you alive, because I guarantee you that in your lifetime there will be others like Katy, who speak their conservative mind. And you can “rant” all you want and call them “liars,” “hypocrites,” and racist (even though you don’t know them one bit), but the fact is… unless you get a grip, you might just find yourself keeling over from a stress-induced heart attack!
America is a diverse land with many views and many different people. You do realize that, don’t you? There are MILLIONS of conservatives, and for you to think that they are all “liars” and “hypocrites” is just plain foolish.
In fact, I’ll bet that most of them are a heck of a lot nicer than a lot of the liberals out there.
You are indeed a very mean, hateful person as evidenced in your post. You sound very arrogant, very bitter, very hateful. I sure would rather hang out with someone like Katy than someone like you any day!
It’s very sad that people like you live the way you do, with so much hatred and arrogance that you sit there are rip apart a young woman simply because you didn’t like what she had to say or how she said it on t.v… oh, and you don’t like the fact that she watches Glen Beck.
Maybe you are actually a racist yourself who hates Katy because she is white. I mean, the amount of hatred you show towards someone who is a stranger… it kinda makes one wonder about your stability and motives and the root of your own hatred.
Maybe you just hate beautiful women who speak their mind. Who knows. But you sure are HATEFUL. That much is very clear.
Katy- First, admitting that you have never been involved in politics is not a good thing. It’s like saying I’ve never cared much for that book learning stuff. And not reading the Constitution until you are 35 is grounds to be denied political voice in my opinion.
Second, Russia is a democracy and has been since 1993, so Russia IS ALREADY LIKE US! For the love of God, don’t home school your children.
Third, read the Constitution again. I don’t think you understood it the first time.
Fourth, Medicare and Medicaid are government administered health care plans and that didn’t dismantle the country, but catastrophic apathy and ignorance like yours just might.
If Katiy Abram and her husband do not want socialism in the USA than they should not use…
Public water and sewage systems, Public electricity grids, Public schools and univerisities, The INTERNET, Public streets, etc…. AND of course they must HATE our Publicly funded Military, Police and Firemen.
What an ungratefull, dishonest, shill!!!
Good for you Katy. What you said was wonderful and am so glad you found the words to express what well over 50% of our country feels. Many of those who jumped on the “hope and change” band wagon had no idea what this dictator planned to do to our country, because he pretended to be something he wasn’t. The fight is far from over though since the contant onslaught on our country will not end even if he doesn’t get to destroy our health care system and use his very special methods of redistribution for it. Please don’t pay attention to the vile comments; if any of these folks had a valid argument, they would make it (but they don’t so name calling is what they are stuck with).
And to the person who blamed Bush for spending the social security money. You need to check your history. The program was started by a democrat to allow people to set aside part of their own money for their retirement and was to be kept in a seperate fund and not taxed when it was paid back out since it had already been taxed. Then, democrats are the ones who got social security moved into general funds cause they felt there was too much money in the fund (perhaps if they had left it alone, the baby boomers would also get social security), and then, our good bud Clinton decided to tax people’s social security and the last president to rape the social security system was Carter who gave aliens who lived in our country social security retirement even though they had never paid into the system and none of the money belonged to them (it belonged to the people who trusted the government to be good stewards of their retirement savings). The democrats, although not generous with their own money, spend every dime they can steal from the American people in a manner which shows no regard for how hard people have to work to earn it, so they can give it to folks who didn’t earn the money.
Some of the comments in here are just simply unbelievable. I think what astounds me most about liberals is the amount of arrogance and hatred they disply, yet they are the ones constantly pointing a finger accusing conservatives of hatefulness. There is so much hypocrisy, but the sad thing is they can’t see it.
Like these comments by “Dawn”– they are just plain stupid and arrogant. So what if Katy has never been involved in politics. I personally have no problem with anyone admitting that. There are millions who aren’t “involved” or even informed, and then something happens, and they choose to be involved or informed. So be it. Who am I to sit there and condemn someone for their lack of involvement? Good grief!!
And then “Dawn” goes on to tell Katy not to homeschool, and that she should be denined a voice because she didn’t read the Constitution until she was 35, she tells her that she doesn’t understand the Constitution, and then tells her that she is apathetic and ignorance.
God, I wish we could just shut all these stupid, condescending, arrogant liberals up!!!! Our world would be much better off!!!!!
Dawn, you are an IDIOT and a pompous a*sh*le!!! And it’s not becuase of your apathy or ignorance. It’s because of your arrogance… in other words, who you are as a person. I’d rather be apathetic and ignorant any day than be an arrogant jerk like you. I sure hope you are not married. If so, I truly pity your husband and kids for having to endure a lifetime with your arrogance.
She was disrespectful to a public servant. People think they can treat a Senator abusively and then retreat away with no repercussions. Remember the Golden Rule.
This lady is dumber than Palin, which I didn’t think is possible. This guys blog is a joke. What kind of idiot agrees with such stupidity?
Katy, thanks for your courage and your anger, also. It’s about time that we, the citizens… the ones who pay these govt. officials to work for us, spoke out and told them that we are angry and fed up with the direction that Obama is taking this country. You’re a beautiful woman Katy, and don’t you for one bit worry about anyone criticizing you. They do it everytime a conservative citizen speaks out and gets attention (remember Joe the Plumber?). Which is why you are such a courageous woman. The use of our right to free speech is under fire by
Democrats and liberals who hate when we exercise it, without fear or intimidation. Let’s hope more and more people like Katy speak out and send this administration a message, loud and clear!
I’m not sure I agree with you, Filter. How was Katy “disrespectful”? She didn’t abuse Specter personally. She simply told him why people were so angry.
Katy is a liar. She is connected to an organized group and is not a political newcomer. She’s been “meeting up” with conservatives since 2006. she’s a leader of the 9/12 group, setting up its networking site on Ning, greeting new members, inviting folks to events at her home and elsewhere – and last night, after her star turn, comparing her cause to that of Martin Luther King Jr. She’s pushing 9-12 tchotchke. She even wrote a book review, under her husband’s name BACK IN 2004, for Sean Hannity’s “Deliver us from evil.” And her major, at Bloomsburg University, was mass communication so she must have learned something about current events. So despite the image that she cultivates, that she is (as described by one of her conservative pals who was at the PA rally) a “stay at home mom,” she’s not. Katy lies. Hmmm, a past major in communications, attractive TV presence (apart from the waterworks!). She got caught lying just like Joe the Plumber.
And Mr. Quinn, why don’t you act like a real journalist and stop molesting your subject matter (Katy) with you incessant desires. The way you have slobber over her clearly indicates that you do not possess an ensemble of integrity to report on the news and not make someone your bone fide hero. Shame on you conservative media.
Justin, Mr. O’Donnell said;
“President” Obama never advocated single-payer health care system. Which is TRUE! As “president”, Obama never advocated single payer. He did say exactly what is in the audio tape… however, he wasn’t “President” at the time.
pallen,
Whatever!
You can try to parse words all you want to make your point, but you know damned well what O’Donnell meant … and so does everyone else. The problem with your logic is the word “never.” “President” is simply a recently-bestowed title that is arbitrary and irrelevant to the issue for which O’Donnell was trying advocate. As his was during the interview, your pathetic attempt to validate this erroneous point with smoke and mirrors (you honestly think a title is enough to overturn a life-long ideology?!) really does your argument on the overall issue of health insurance reform a major disservice. People aren’t stupid, Pallen, and when they see someone reaching this far to defend the indefensible and protect the shortcomings of a liberal commentator, their natural reaction is to treat with skepticism anything they — or you — have to say from this point forward.
Your argument may be sad, but your blind devotion to this losing cause is frightening. Either way, you should be ashamed of yourself for attempting to offer this outrageous excuse for O’Donnell’s ignorance as a furtherance of the discussion.
We all know better.
Arvi,
Thanks for your constructive criticism, but you should know that the topic I cover is US Conservative Politics & perspectives. The blog is the perspective part and constitutes my opinion, which I’m entitled — and, in fact, encouraged — to have.
I have to admit that I’m relatively impressed (and equally frightened) at the stalker-like research you’ve conducted on my friend Katy, but I’m sure you know, as well as I do, that how people appear on paper is rarely what they’re truly like in person. I think the “lies” you and your fellow liberals are ascribing to her are manifestations of your own, which somehow erroneously validate your own initial skepticism of her, skepticism you formed when you first heard what she had to say. I, personally, see neither hypocrisy nor inconsistency in her comments vs. her online personal proclivities. She, herself, said that she had never been involved in politics before, and that is true. Say whatever you like about her involvement in local meet-ups with like-minded folks. Those groups are simply places for discussion. In her case, these conversations ultimately and patriotically turned themselves into action, which is the genesis of change.
Frankly, I feel sorry for your juvenile attitude toward male/female friendship, and I can only imagine that it is simply an outgrowth of your own sorry inadequacies when it comes to those kinds of relationships. Believe it or not, Arvi, grown men and women can have a non-sexual relationship based on mutual respect and friendship. Unfortunately, your argument about my lack of “journalistic integrity” is unfounded, because the entire blog post is about how I know her and why I consider her a friend. As a friend, I am loyal to her and have offered her the best guidance and support I can provide because we are both of like mind on the present issue. You can paint it in whatever terms you like, Arvi, because you are not my friend, and I therefore consider anything you have to say of little consequence. In fact, I’m only replying to you now because you posted a comment on my blog and I want to ensure those reading your misguided and ill-informed remarks that they are based on nothing more than supposition, jealousy, ignorance and no small measure of adolescent angst.
Arvi, I would suggest researching health care to make your points rather than focusing all your aggressive attention on a woman who you clearly do not know.
This is the so called sleeping giant who was never interested in politics before the health care issue..She does not know how much her family earns..and she does not talk politics with her family…ha all lies.
See her amazon review posted under her husbands name
http://www.amazon.com/gp/cdp/member-reviews/A2SHX41GP17L5N/ref=cm_pdp_rev_more?ie=UTF8&sort%5Fby=MostRecentReview/lR802GKKS15GOI
“First and foremost I am a conservative who has seen the light after working a number of years in the liberal television media. While working in television I didn’t see it. I didn’t see the liberal workings because I was a part of it. After leaving to become a stay at home mom I see time after time how much my former counterparts spin everything. As a result I have returned to my original God given roots of conservativism. (My parents are so proud). I digress. To the last individual who stated only the rich are conservative…well let me educate you. I personally have NEVER made over $35,000. My husband is making in the mid $50’s…well looky here someone who is a conservative who makes less than your liberal paycheck. Amazing to think that someone so poor could be a conservative.
Anyhow, I bought Sean’s book this weekend and it again has stirred the fire in my belly. I absolutely love this book. Sean doesn’t skirt around the issues with a song and dance of rhetoric. He shows CLEARLY and DISTINCTLY how the left left their minds in the gutter. Their minds are fogged with the rantings of lunatics. They have seen clear proof of the difference of good and evil in the world and are still either oblivious to it or truly choose to turn a blind eye in hopes for recovering the White House.
Sean you have truly outdone yourself. Keep up the great work! This is truly a work of love and dedication.”
What I find amazing, is how the wealthy get the less fortunate folks to vote against their best interests.
Thousand of people out protesting to defend the rights of the trillion dollar corporate empires??? How does that happen?
I bet Katy Weber Abram has good healthcare, but he doesn’t want anyone else to have it. Reminds me of the school vouchers debate.
Yep. If healthcare is not a right, and the so-called conservatives have clearly made that claim, then so be it. No rights for anyone. Not for the elderly, not for children on welfare, and none for vets. Furthermore, no hospital should have to care for anyone who does not have the money ahead of time. Remember, healthcare is not a right. Let’s give this a punch of reality and see how long those mobsters last when all those people I just listed start lynching thYep. If healthcare is not a right, and the so-called conservatives have clearly made that claim, then so be it. No rights for anyone. Not for the elderly, not for children on welfare, and none for vets. Furthermore, no hospital should have to care for anyone who does not have the money ahead of time. Remember, healthcare is not a right. Let’s give this a punch of reality and see how long those mobsters last when all those people I just listed start lynching them on the nearest thing around. If healthcare reform is defeated, Obama should make sure he vetoes any legislation that will continue funding any of those programs. Healthcare is not a right!!!em on the nearest thing around. If healthcare reform is defeated, Obama should make sure he vetoes any legislation that will continue funding any of those programs. Healthcare is not a right!!!
There is obviously a hateful troll in here, and it sounds like he’s literally obsessed with Katie. What happened Troll?? Did Katie, or some other beautiful conservative girl like her, spurn your advances or something?
You sound like you are mentally unstable, and I’m a worried about Katie with you out there- you seem to know too much about her, and it’s fairly disturbing. What exactly are your intentions?
JUSTIN, if possible, I suggest you try to find out who this guy is. Katie has already been harrassed, and this guy literally seems obsessed with her- he’s obviously posting under various aliases here and seriously acts obsessed, almost like a stalker. He’s digging up Amazon reviews she’s written for Christ’s sake. I don’t trust this guy, and seriously, who knows what he might be willing to do towards the object of his hatred- Katie.
So please Justin, do what you can to find out who this is or to not let him post anymore. I seriously am worried about Katie, and her family.
BTW Troll, your various aliases don’t fool anyone. You are seriously obsessed. GET LOST!!!!!! And LEAVE KATIE ALONE!!!
hey Griff, you need read the constitution and if you have a half a brain you should be able to understand how what Katy said makes sense. but if you are a liberal drone. well, there’s no hope for you.
Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!
Hey Rob’s Wife… You made me smile. Being dressed down by someone with no identity of her own (other than just being some guy’s wife) was funny as heck. Secondly, I am not a TROLL or part of any group or any single person posting under a variety of identities. See, I have my OWN identity. So typical. You don’t like (or know how to handle) opposition so you attack the source. You know, it’s possible for a whole bunch of DIFFERENT people to have an opinion different from yours! Laughable.
USCONSERVATIVES: Do your (own) homework. Nice Hannity-style tactic…you don’t like what you read so you counter by trying to attack the person or doubting the evidence or by answering a question with a question or by going after some minute nuance of a statement. Or by trying to make someone give a laundry list of all their sources and list all the evidence. You’re a regular Ron Christie!! Facts are facts. Go look them up!
So here’s a quick recap of the facts:
Healthcare reform— GOOD
Katy Abram— DUMB
Wow!
TO THE TROLL
You really dig that Bush-style “domestic spying/reading e-mails/listening to phone calls/identify all dissenters” model!!
By the by, Katie invited all the attention, good or bad, when she stood up at that Town Hall and then went on national TV and exhibited her utterly pathetic lack of understanding of the facts (including facts of her own family life like how much money their small business makes).
AGAIN, her sin is not being on the wrong side of the issue, it NOT HAVING ANY KNOWLEDGE OF THE ISSUE. You can’t be against something you don’t even understand (unless you’re doing it just because Rush and Sean and Bill do you’re thinking for you and tell you what to believe!)
Katie will be fine. The worst thing that will happen to her is that (hopefully) soon her 15 minutes of fame will be up. Now id we could just get Sarah Palin’s 15 to be up.
“IDoKnowPolitics”– her “sin??” Are you for real?
My heart truly does go out to you. You clearly are an unhappy person. This woman states her mind, then is invited to a couple of news shows where she further states her mind, and you talk about her “sin” of not having knowledge. Since when is that a “sin???”
And you talk about her 15 mins. of fame being up, blah, blah. Honestly, you should search your heart and figure out why you are so filled with such desdain for this normal, average woman who dared speak her mind (heaven forbid!). So what if she wasn’t as eloquent as you think she should’ve been. I’m sure you’d still be calling her “dumb” even if she spoke with all the smooth flattery of Obama. You’re mad simply because she is a conservative, and who knows why else. I think you have some issues going on and should talk to a therapist. It would probably help you to be a happier person who could worry less about a conservative woman speaking her mind on a news show.
And honestly, I see few places/people that are still talking about her, but obviously you are!! Just can’t let go, can you? Like I said… therapist, help, issues… for your own sake and your family’s sake.
Katy, America is proud of you!! Thank you for speaking up like you did and not being fearful of the Left. So many Americans are against this health care plan, as well as Obama’s other policies, and you are right, it has awakened a sleeping giant! Polls keep showing a drop in Obama’s ratings and the majority of Americans are against this health care plan. I am hoping and praying it does not pass!! Yes, we need reform, but not in the form of a government take over which is what this plan will be. So, Katy, we thank you for not being afraid to speak out. You are a smart, lovely, admirable woman, and your children will be proud of you when one day they are older and understand the foe (liberals) that you went up against just by speaking your outrage and your opinion. That alone says alot about your character and your courage! God bless!
P.S. These rude comments on here make me laugh. All liberals know how to do is insult. There is no intelligent rebuttal or debate with liberals, esp. not right now when they simply can’t deny certain things- such as the astronomical cost of the health care proposal and the fact that we are already hugely in debt. So, all they can do is throw insult after insult towards people like Katy and people who oppose them (the list is looooong- Sarah Palin, Fox News, Rush Limbaugh…).
It’s a pitiful sight actually, but I also laugh because their tactics have become so old and ineffective, and meanwhile, Fox ratings keep going up while MSNBC and CNN’s are in the tank, and polls keep showing that the majority of people in almost every state are conservatives, and most Americans are against Obamacare and Michelle Malkin’s book has been #1 for two weeks now, and in fact, there are about 4 or 5 books by conservatives (including Bill O’Reiley) that are in the top 10, and NONE by liberals. Ha!
Liberals have acted so ugly in so many ways since their god was elected, and a lot of people’s eyes are opening to both their false god (Obama) and to their ugly attitudes and character. Hope it’s not too late for us to save this nation from Obama’s destructive policies!!
TO THE TROLL
One of the rights given to us by the constitution is freedom of speech! Remember Katy wants us to return to ideals of our for fathers…. The information I posted is not private or privileged information. The information is easily obtained by conducting a simple Boolean web search. We are not stalking this right wing plant; we are just calling out the obvious inconsistencies in her “I am a simple stay at home mom, who was called into action by the current health care debate” story.
How quickly you change your tone when the message does not fit your agenda. I think the moderator has more sense than to use “Bush” era tactics to track down dissenters. I can give you my library card and you can gladly search my checkout history!
Hey, now this is getting fun! Justin, that is a truly impressive level of cognitive dissonance you’ve got on display there. And on consecutive posts, no less. Never means never, except when you say it doesn’t.
Abram: “I’ve never been interested in politics”
You can try to parse words all you want to make your point, but you know damned well what [Abram] meant … and so does everyone else. The problem with your logic is the word “never.” “[Tea Bagger]” is simply a recently-bestowed title that is arbitrary and irrelevant to the issue for which [Abram] was trying advocate…[Y]our pathetic attempt to validate this erroneous point with smoke and mirrors …really does your argument on the overall issue of health insurance reform a major disservice. People aren’t stupid, [Justin], and when they see someone reaching this far to defend the indefensible and protect the shortcomings of a [volunteer corporate lackey], their natural reaction is to treat with skepticism anything they — or you — have to say from this point forward.
So it turns out Katy constructed a false narrative. She’s not that different from politicians in that regard, and as a result, she offers a much less sympathetic figure than she would as a simple mom who got in way over her head in a television interview.
Moreover, the issue of the false narrative simply piles on the main point here, which is Katy’s stunning ignorance. 5 years went by since she posted her glowing review of Sean Hannity’s book. In that time, we saw both the rollout of a previously enacted Medicare prescription drug overhaul and the attempted overhaul of Social Security. These issues affect essentially all Americans and are fundamental to the nature of the relationship between the individual and the state. Yet pure and simple, Katy had no idea what O’Donnell was talking about when he brought these programs up.
Katy Abram, you go girl, you have said what many people are thinking. I pray for what you are going through, you are doing it for us.I am a Vietnam era veteran and what you did, you did for your family and all the “working” families in the United States.Don’t get caught up in all the “bull” they are throwing at you, they have nothing else but that. be tough thanks again Dan S.
to gretchen: I have no idea why you are on this site, why aren’t you out recruiting little girls for Obamas next town meeting……. really
Katy,
You said everything that was in my mind. I write letters to stop this socialistic take over by the people in charge these days but hearing you say it out loud for all to hear did my heart good !!! Ruining our economy and taking over our health care are the ways they have been taught to do this since the communists/socialists arrived in our country in the early 1900’s. They knew they would never be able to take us over but they could erode us from within. Read the book”School of darkness” by Bella Dodd, who spent years in the communist party in the usa till she saw the light and wrote this book in the 1950’s. You are right the “sleeping giant” of normal americans who want their country to remain the best in the world, has been awakened. The left are so scared all they can do is call everyone with a head on their shoulders, names, like they do to Palin, Hannity, Beck, Rush, Savage etc. God bless you Katy.
this issue with HEALTH CARE is one of many – this country will continue to have major conflicts and differences amoung its citizens if ONE very important thing doesn’t happen. Most of us know what that is CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM!!! Everyone should be demanding it NOW! There will be no true change in this country until we can have honest people – not career politians running the show. Every liberal, conservative, libetarian or moderate should know this unless they’re just biased or brain dead.
Personally, I’m glad to see conservatives being verbally attacked by liberals– here, on the news, in D.C. The conservatives at townhall meetings are being called nazis and racist and not grassroots, as D.C. and the liberal media try to disregard them as just pawns of the Rep Party.
And I’m glad to see them in a frenzied, hostile state of mind because they are simply showing their true colors for all the world to see!! And that is a good thing because people can see that liberals aren’t the compassionate, caring people they claim to be, but rather that they are elitist, arrogant, hypocritical, and hateful.
I believe that what we are seeing now will be reflected in the 2010 elections. Of course, the Dems will more than likely resort to fraud, as usual, but if not, alot of those arrogant Dem politicians, the ones who are either dismissing or simply ignoring their constituents, will be OUT OF OFFICE!! And the nation will be replacing them with conservatives. Just watch. It’ll happen.
Katy and others are making their voices heard, and while some of the politicians are listening, others are not!! Their arrogance and smugness is astounding!! We “hired” them by voting for them, and yet they forget that they work for us and we can easily vote them out! Call your officials and demand townhall meetings with them. Katy, and the other protestors, have set an example for us, an example of bravery and grace under fire. This health care plan will be utterly disasterous for our nation. Health care is in great need of reform, but it is NOT in need of being taken over by the government!! Heaven help us all!!
Katy Abram, God bless you and your family! You don’t deserve any of the problems you’ve had (like being harrassed) since you spoke up at the townhall meeting! Those people who are doing that to you ought to be ashamed of themselves. It’s a sad day in America when an American can’t even speak their mind with the fear of the Left harrassing them. It reminds me of Joe the Plumber and how they tried to dig up dirt on him. Or Carrie Prejean. Just people speaking their minds, and they find themselves targets for a vile and hateful Left. It’s truly, truly a shame and an outrage! Katy, don’t let anyone discourage you or keep you from speaking out like you have. The nation needs more people like you!
I just saw the clip from the town hall in which Barney Frank addressed a question very similar to Katy’s. That was awesome. I feel really fortunate to have a representative who gave such an honest, forthright and thoroughly deserving response to such ignorance and irrationality.
OMG- what is wrong with Barney Frank’s mouth?? I think we all already know what is wrong with his attitude and character– he has very little character and his attitude is arrogant, pompous, and he acted like a complete pig!!
Deejay, you are one of the VERY few who feel “fortunate” having him as a rep, although I have a feeling that the character and attitude of your reps. don’t matter much as long as they are liberal Democrats. Pelosi’s and Frank’s approval ratings are completely dismal… DISMAL. In other words, in the tank.
Frank proved he cannot handle normal people or conflict or criticsm. He made a FOOL of himself. Everyone is laughing at his foolish, arrogant attitude. But, I agree with the poster who said… let them spout off… they are only showing the rest of us all what idiots they are!!
“On what planet do you spend most of your time?” Barney Frank
ROFL!! I think some 2nd grade boy asked me that in 2nd grade… or was that kindergarten?? LOL! Frank sounds like a child!! How many mature, stable adults actually “fight” criticsm with such a line? Unbelievable.
Another Frank response: “Trying to have a conversation with you would be like trying to have a conversation with a dining room table.”
His “maturity” is just amazing. LOL!!! I never thought I’d live to see the day when Democrats acted like this– all huffy, overly sensitive by the criticsm at their plan, acting condesending and elitist. They really have been in a bubble up there on the Hill!! How did some of these people get into office?! Amazing.
Oh… and did everyone here about the dealers who are now pulling out of Cash for Clunkers because they haven’t been paid and some are in the hole millions of dollars!? Prime example of the inefficiency of the government!!!
A dealer in my hometown is owed 1.3 million dollars and hasn’t received one single penny of it! And the news currently reporting it has said not one single positive thing about the govt. or the program.
YOU REALLY WANT THESE PEOPLE RUNNING HEALTHCARE? What on earth is wrong with you who do?! Come on… face reality!! Govt runs our healthcare and we are in SERIOUS trouble!!
Regarding the Lawrence O’Donnell interview; tough questions do not equal “loaded” questions, as Justin Quinn implies. That’s why the show is called “Hardball”. If she wanted another nerf ball interview (the kind that Quinn applauds), she could have just done another with Sean Hannity. O’Donnell did give her plenty of time to talk, like when she described the marvels of her $5,000 deductible private insurance plan (ooohhh, sign me up!). Her discussion there sounded more like an ad AGAINST private health care. Many of O’Donnell’s questions dealt with Abrams’ Town Hall statements, like “restor(ing) this country back to what our founders created according to the constitution”. It was THAT STATEMENT by Abrams that had nothing to do with healthcare! And O’Donnell’s question about her family income was based on Abrams’ “they (Obama admin.) want her family to pay more taxes” comment. Abrams could have declined to comment on what they make, but instead sounded either totally ignorant or disingenuous in saying that she didn’t know. Finally, Abrams insists “there are programs in place that the founders did not want to have here”. Would pre-emptive war be one of them? Oh, I’m sorry, war is “commonplace”, you gotta have faith in the government when it comes to pre-emptive war.
The Democrats are acting just plain desperate. They should be. This is all about them and their agenda. And Obama and his agenda. And Americans, even the ones who voted for Obama, are waking up and realizing it. As our nation heads deeper into debt and yet Obama and the Democrats still are pushing for this costly health reform bill, when there really is not a health care “crisis” (except the one they’ve made up) only proves that this is just Obama and the Dems. trying to leave their permanent mark on our nation. Let’s all pray that they do not succeed!
Katy is a Glenn Beck nutcase follower–part of his 9/12 crazy group. She lives in Lebanon County, PA which is situated in the “T” of Pennsylvania in what we Pennsylvanians call our Alabama.
So she wants to go back to the original constitution –that means no amendments–that would mean no womens’ vote, no freed slaves, no freedom of speech, not right to bear arms etc.
What woman who cares about her family doesn’t know their income unless she would not divulge the income because it is extremely high.
Go away your 15 minutes of fame are over.
Stu:
Facts are facts. Frank won reelection with approximately 70% of the vote. A lot of people liked him in November, and a lot of people like him now, both locally and nationally. In fact, if you do a google search for “Barney Frank approval ratings”, you’ll quickly turn up an article from an award winning Philadelphia reporter who has high praise for Frank’s town hall performance.
I understand that approval ratings of Congressional Democrats are dropping. Two things: First, do you have any numbers for Barney Frank specifically? Keep in mind that it’s not at all uncommon for people to disapprove of Congress, yet give high marks to their own representatives. And Barney Frank will always be especially well liked here. You made a remarkable claim, and I’d be impressed if you could back it up.
Secondly, Democratic approval ratings may be dropping, but are they “DISMAL” or “in the tank”? They’re at 49% last I saw. Meanwhile Republicans are at 40%. Would that qualify as the “gutter” by your system of nomenclature?
As for what kind of representative I like, I’ll just say you’re making a lot of unwarranted assumptions. Let’s stick to the facts. Can you back up your claims on approval ratings?
Another thing, Stu (and Teacher), there’s a difference between “criticism” and mind boggling ignorance and irrationality. The former deserves fair treatment, and the latter…well, what do you do with mind boggling ignorance and irrationality? Dale Carnegie wouldn’t approve of Frank’s response, sure, but a lot of people do. Do you really think the LaRouche supporter at the town hall is a “normal person? How should have Frank responded?
I agree about the laugh-fest joke that is Barney Frank! What a hoot it was to watch his buffoonish demeanor in that townhall. Actually, it was a little painful listening to his garballed voice. It sounds like he eats gravel!
Katy, you are a great lady, and you represent the citizens of this nation well! You held your own, you spoke well, and me and my family thank you!
The Left claims to be the party who cares about people, but from what I’ve read in here and from what I see out there (Barney Frank, Pelosi, etc), I think it’s pure hypocrisy. I see NO care whatseover on their part. Well, they care about their own selves. That’s about it, IMO.
So, you go, Girl!! I’d be proud to be a friend of yours, and I loved how you spoke your mind at the townhall and the courage you also showed by being willing to go on a liberal news show with yet another liberal blabbermouth who wouldn’t harldy let you answer any questions!
God bless ya!!
I agree wtih what Katy had to say, and those who are putting her down and name-calling her ought to be ashamed of themselves! She is a private citizen who simply spoke her mind and then gave a couple of interviews. I personally could care less if she stumbled a bit or wasn’t as smooth-talking as Obama, at least she is a real, genuine person unlike Obama who is a liar and manipulator and simply uses his smooth-talking ways to manipulate and deceive people! This nation is being torn apart by Obama. He is so hell-bent on his agenda and the Democrats are on a major, major power-trip, and it is truly, truly very frightening and upsetting! I am so angry at the people who voted for this man. Even though John McCain was not exactly the greatest candidate, at least we wouldn’t be headed towards socialism! We need to pray that Obama does NOT succeed getting this health care plan passed, or the cap and trade bill, or the Fairness Doctrine, or all the other completely destructive things he plans on doing!
Every comment down grading Katy is from unintellegent people. PERIOD. Are you guys really as stupid as you make yourselves sound? She stood up and said what she feels. That’s all. Because you uneducated lefties are being extreamly outnumbered by people with common sense is the only reason you take such offense. It’s obvious NON of you have read the proposed bill OR the Constitution. Thank you for being so stupid, your the reason this bill will be so easy to opress.
If Katy and her ilk is our future, I feel for this country. This awakening ‘giant’s’ intellect does not match her mythical image. If asked to explain her sophomoric babel, she would have fallen into a deep abyss. Her insurance coverage she proudly lauds is bottom of the proverbial barrel. This is a prime example of what is offered when you navigate the medical ins roadblocks alone. And someone should remind her that her son has a pre existing condition. Earth to Katy—This is the leverage the ins companies use against you to deny coverage. Instead of worrying about being quizzed on the improbability of a toilet paper shortage, her anguish should be focused on the realization of one day Jr approaching her and proclaiming “Mom, I have a PEC and I can not obtain medical ins coverage and what did you do about it?”
Katy – Thanks for speaking your mind, and thank you for having the guts to appear on some of these shows. You said very well what many people believe! Thank you for STANDING UP!!!
As for you naysayers, grow up. This healthcare debacle is about Obama’s ego and lust for power. It has NOTHING to do with providing affordable healthcare to all Americans. It’s about taking over 1/6th of the national economy. If Obama was serious about providing affordable healthcare to all, he would start by weeding out the waste and inefficiencies in the current system. The obvious place to start is medical Tort Reform. Then follow that with medical Tax Reform. And while he’s at it, he’d start looking into how to fix the current government programs that are about to be insolvent, namely Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. Without fixing those three, it’s a total joke!! How can he expect anyone to buy the argument that the government can effectively run the biggest and most expensive program in the history of this country? Lastly, if he’s truly serious on healthcare reform, he’d work on allowing healthcare and insurance to go across state lines. Open markets create true competition!!
Obama wasn’t satisfied with taking over GM and Chrysler. He wasn’t satisfied with taking over Citigroup. It looks like he won’t be satisfied even once healthcare is under government control, because as of today, he’s going after our national security, too. With the appointment of a special interrogation unit under the auspices of the National Security Council which answers directly to the White House, he will begin investigating and prosecuting officers of the CIA for possible abuses. Will that unit investigate and prosecute those that nailed the mastermind of 9/11? You bet!!! Because you know, We the People have to “apologize” because we “forced” that terrorist to do it!! By the way, wasn’t it just a couple of months ago, that the American people and Congress said NO to these investigations/prosecutions? Why yes it was! But, Obama doesn’t care about us, doesn’t care about Congress, doesn’t care about anything, except his own agenda. And does he think that the American people aren’t getting it that this is a distraction to the current task at hand, the government takeover of the healthcare system…which as I said before, is 1/6th of the entire economy of the United States?
Oh…and of course, we can’t forget the ticking time bomb of Cap and Trade. If that passes, he’ll have total control of this country’s energy, too. There’s not much more to control after that!
No…regular, normal Americans are NOT happy with this “administration”, and I say that lightly. The American people are not stupid, and there is a line in the sand that we will not pass. If Obama keeps up this bs, people WILL do more than just say, “NO MORE!” He may just drag this country into a second civil war. Hey, maybe that’s what he wants. This is the summer of discontent, and people are very much on edge. Obama has sorely misjudged the will of the American people. He should pat himself on the back because he has managed to do one thing right…awaken the sleeping giant.
“No…regular, normal Americans are NOT happy with this “administration”, and I say that lightly.”
I would hardly call anyone against health care reform a regular, normal American. From where I sit, it sure looks like the people against what is happening are pure racists. Especially when they write about taking the country into civil wars.
It boggles my mind on how all you wing nuts had nothing to say how our deficit was run up to where it is when the Republicans were in control. Then, it seems everyone wants to blame Obama for the bail out when the fact of the matter is it all started last year. It wouldn’t have mattered if McCain had won the election – TARP still would have been implemented. The banks would have been bailed out and GM and Chrysler would have still been bailed out. Fact of the matter is none of you can stand having a President that is black and intelligent.
Texan,
Please. Race has nothing to do with this. Why don’t you offer something more original to the discussion. No one but the liberals are making this about race.
Texan – Puhlease…the overused and tired “race” distraction isn’t stopping people from the seeing the real issues at hand; a sitting President with a serious ego and lust for power who this moment has every intention of taking over 1/6th of the national economy, and much, much more. Isn’t it interesting. The warning signs about this guy were abundantly clear, but because he has the abililty to make some great speeches, a whole bunch of people jumped off the collective “Yes We Can” cliff into the abyss below. And now we as a nation are having to seriously fight to keep our fleeting freedoms intact.
Amazing that in 7 short months, Obama and the federal government managed to gain control of the banking, mortgage, and auto industries. I’m still astonished at the amazing speed of that takeover…without a shot being fired. Then the “administration” (and again, I use that term lightly) kicked CEO’s out of select companies and replaced them with government appointed executives…AND determined their compensation! Not scared yet? Aren’t you even having a touch of queasiness about the appointment of a whole bunch of “czars” that are only accountable to the President, and are appointed without congressional approval, and who have a massive amount of power over many policy decisions within the United States? These are policy decisions that under 10th Amendment of the Constitution belong to the states, not the federal government. We the voters did not put these czars there, and frankly, we have no power to remove them. You still want to close your eyes and imagine nothing is wrong? WAKE UP.
This push for “universal healthcare” has everything to do with the takeover of a big portion of our national economy. This proposed program, according to the 10th Amendment of our Constitution, is not even LEGAL! This program would be the largest in US history, and would give the federal government sweeping powers over the most basic of ALL our citizens’ needs…access to doctors and healthcare.
Aren’t you even a bit concerned that this man is now emasculating a government agency (CIA) that operates separately from the control of the White House? Doesn’t it even bother you just a bit that via Attorney General Eric Holder, an interrogation unit was formed under the National Security Council (which reports directly to the President) to investigate and prosecute present and former officers within the CIA? No, it’s not about investigating and prosecuting wrongdoing. It’s about emasculating and diminishing. It’s about breaking down our security. And it’s all politically motivated.
Then, let’s talk about Cap and Trade, yet another debacle looming on the horizon, and meant to have sweeping federal government control over yet another of our citizens’ basic needs…access to affordable energy. Are you ready to pay $4,$6 or even more per gallon for gas…immediately? You may not be able to afford to have your roof replaced, should your home suffer the misfortune of a damaging hailstorm. Let me tell you, the cost for roofing materials has doubled in the past year alone. I know, because my business has to deal with this issue every day. The cost for roofing materials will skyrocket because they are made with petroleum products. Anything made with plastic or rubber will skyrocket too, since they are made with petroleum products. Are you ready to pay double the current amount in order to heat your home? And what if you can’t pay? Well, you’ll either decide not to heat your home any longer, or take a handout from the federal government, for which you will pay in a BIG way.
I could go on and on. The man in the White House knows a thing or two about the Constitution, since he taught Constitutional Law, (even though his Press Secretary Robert Gibbs said otherwise in April of this year, which is just more smoke and mirrors, but I digress.) Obama knows EXACTLY what it takes to undermine the Constitution, because he taught Constitutional Law. We the People need to stand up as a nation and say, NO MORE!! Ronald Reagan said it best, “Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn’t pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children’s children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.”
Good job Katy. I’ve noticed that nearly every comment from a liberal, either here or any other political site, has had a very insulting over tone. That seems to be all they can do is criticize and disrespect people. Liberals seem to think that being highly educated (brainwashed in most cases) makes a person more qualified to speak. I have a college degree but it is not in peace, love and blah, blah, blah or some scholarly program where they teach you to avoid talking about facts, but instead to attack people who speak the simple truth. This country was founded on simple truths but somewhere along the lines we became more concerned with political correctness and finger pointing. Now we have these “scholars” and politicians who are very adept at over-thinking and clouding the issues and then selling thier way of thinking to the youth and sheltered people of this country. Somewhere along the way the liberal media jumped on board. How can we wipe out the liberal disease? Someone please tell me! To all conservatives; ignore the liberal propaganda and personal attacks. Keep the faith and continue speaking out against government takeover. Fight for our constitution and everything we love in this country. To all liberals; Move to China.
Katy; Godbless you for standing up to Arlen Specter and speaking for so many Americans! My family stood up and cheered when we saw you express OUR EXACT sentiments at that Town Hall. Don’t pay any attention to those juvenile, hateful Obama sicophants who are currently slandering you. The very fact that they’re going to so much trouble to discredit you is PROOF-POSITIVE your message is on-target and resonating with a majority of the American people. Paul, thanks for sending us the DVD! -Tomm Buzzetta & Family
Katy; Godbless you for saying what you did. Our family stood up and cheered when we heard what you said! You spoke for a lot of us out here. The vast majority of Americans agree with you 100%. Stay strong. The reason you’re being so viciously attacked now demonstrates how effective your message was. The opposition can’t defeat your argument intellectually so they attack you personally. Keep standing tall. And Paul, thanks for sending the DVD!
I was very impressed with the video of Katy telling Specter like it is!
Katy, you are our hero. You have more intelligence than the entire Liberal Establishment. You nailed it when you said the issue is the Constitution, which is being trashed every day when our freedoms and liberties are being eroded. Your interview on Greta was fabulous. Keep it up !
So nobody here is for Medicare for Grandma. And since she needs that hip replacement that’s going to cost $60,000, it’s okay for her to sell her house to pay for it. Or, she can suffer in pain for the rest of her life and sit in a wheelchair, but you, her children, firmly deny that she should use Medicare, because “That’s socialism!” And of course, you’re against Social Security, having never drawn a social security check after you retired, and never will–you’d starve on the street first. It’s great to know that since the USA is the ONLY industrialized nation not to have universal health care (To hell with all those poor people who need medical treatments. Let them die!)
Cut out welfare, get rid of the police department, why do we need a fire department–my house isn’t on fire! You people just reek with the milk of human kindness. Of course you feel kind toward the insurance companies who charge an arm and a leg for health insurance & then don’t always deliver but…and the pharmaceutical companies that make all those great medicines–they need billions for their research, they say…and what if doctors overcharge–$100 for 5 minutes. Hey, they went to school for 8 years! They’ve got me on 10 different meds keeping me alive (or killing me with side effects)…
I’m Grandma. I was ready for a wheelchair & in constant pain so much so that I couldn’t even sleep on a soft mattress & a foam egg crate. I had the hip operation on Medicare–didn’t have to sell my home, thank God. And MY children are glad for the few socialistic programs the USA has–and especially glad that I’m now walking and enjoying being pain-free–and they don’t have to take me in. We’ve had socialism since FDR. WPA, CCC, welfare, Social Security, Medicare, Farm Subsidies…the bankers sure loved it when government bailed them out with taxpayers’ money (and borrowed trillions), so did the auto industry. The #1 cause of bankruptancy in the USA is medical expenses resulting from a serious illness. Maybe a few of you will be lucky enough to experience that some day. After all, the Constitution says we must always be cut-throat capitalists. Oh! It doesn’t? Well, crumbs!